Should Real Madrid dismiss Pellegrini ?

[La Furia]

Pellegrini didn't handle Riquelme, he got rid of him, that's a key point because no Real Madrid manager could get rid of a galáctico just as Spaletti can't get rid of Totti.

Getting rid of Riquelme was how you handle him.

 

[Cule Angles]

Yes, but if you can't handle Ronaldo or Benzema that option isn't there.

 

[La Furia]

Ronaldo and Fattygol are assholes but they aren't football's version of Stephon Marbury either.

 

[Beast]

Yeah Nolan is right , already there are some rumors that Real could actually offload Benzema very soon as in this winter or next summer

 

[Metaphysical]

I know not all players are given the complete fanfare of Cristiano, Kaka' and Benzema, but they are all subject the repeated club + media rhetoric of Madrid being the pinacle of club football.

The reason I have come to that conclussion is that in the last 5 Madrid games I have seen, (2 of which were in the flesh, none of which were victories), the players haven't shown respect to their opponent. Whether its Alcorcon or Milan, virtually every player has not been giving their all for the full 90 minutes. Flashes of their abbility, but nothing more.

The difference is maybe in what we judge to be the cause of that. You say its Manu's failing as a manager, maybe. But a Villarreal he was able to motivate a squad, containing perhaps sluggish players, (Riquelme), and make them run, run , run at opponents every game, all season. So for me its not so simple as Manu is poor at his job, there must be more to it than that.

I also want to add, that for all his failings and criticisms, in the two games I went to with Milan and in El Molinon, Drenthe was the only player to actually put in a alot of effort and run for the whole game, so I don't wish to include him in my statements on the squad.

I think you're close to the truth here and for me the attitude of the current real madrid is summed up by Pepe taunting Fernando Torres because Liverpool had only won 5 European Cups, Torres quite rightly quipped "but how many have you won?". I think that right now players are arriving at real madrid and they're seeing the history as some sort of personal accolade which they can claim for themselves rather than as something to aspire to. Players being presented at the Bernabéu in front of all the European cups when they weren't the players that won them is just wrong, we all know what's in the madrid trophy cabinet yet players are arriving and thinking they've already won the lot. The attitude of entitlement and an arrogance that means the players believe they can win matches without getting off the coach is prevalent in the CL more than anywhere, a competition in which madrid have been booted out in the first KO stage since they last won the cup. The belief that madrid "own" the European cup means they don't go out there to give everything because they believe they should be given it all to begin with.

these are brilliant posts.

magnificent work, gentlemen.

Yes, but if you can't handle Ronaldo or Benzema that option isn't there.

I said this earlier.

he's shown he can handle big egos but he needs the support of the chairman to do so. will they back him if he kicks kaka or benzema or CR down to the bench for an extended run of games? or will they instead fire him and find a new trainer for their expensive circus act?

this is the flaw in perez's thinking. he grossly underestimates the value of a good coach, thinking great players can simply go out there and play. not realising that in order to facilitate that kind of freedom you need a chuffing great coach.

if valdano is advocating for pellegrini as beast claims, then he is all that stands between this current galactico project and complete and utter disaster.

 

[ZenI]

Doing a great job so far. I hope he stays.

Indeed!

 

[La Furia]

Yeah Nolan is right , already there are some rumors that Real could actually offload Benzema very soon as in this winter or next summer

Interestingly enough it's not just his suckiness but he's been showing attitude problems since he first started getting hyped up. Ben Arfa was the one credited for disrupting Lyon's locker room and they sided with Benzema but it's the fight between those two which were causing trouble in the first place. Benzema, Nasri and Ben Arfa were all blamed for causing insability for France by refusing to show any sort of respect for the older players. Thank god we didn't buy him because I could see him and Henry trying to kill each other.