Joan Laporta

[jamrock]

You have serious reading comprehension issues

The last 15 years in EPL, many times before a season begun, no one had a clue which 2 or 3 would contend until the end for the title. many examples: 14/15, 15/16, 16/17, 17/18, 23/24, 24/25, this season

Between 18 and 22, Liverpool and City made it a clear 2 horse race because they became the two best teams in the world with substantial distance from the third. Something like Barca and Madrid in the Pep Vs Mourinho years

On the contrary, in LL the last 20 years, you know its either Barca or Madrid 95% of the times, and there is a 5% where both have a bad season, when you know Atleti will be the one getting the chance.
That means in plain English the league is not competitive, if you know beforehand who will win it

AGAIN: Even a 10yr old would understand that you can't compare league titles when there is such difference in competitiveness. There is no point in discussing with someone who doesn't get the basic fact that you can't compare apples with oranges

PS: It's laughable that you even think Atleti achieved the same as Liverpool.
Flip it around. Had Klopp took over Barca or Madrid in 2015 instead of Pool, he would have gotten 7 or 8 leagues in 9 years in the farmers LL
Levels...

So basically only 2/3 teams were in the title race in the EPL just like la liga.

Thanks for confirming.

Liverpool the teams you twerk about consistently, is being matched by lowly atletico madrid and their nepotism

 

[Birdy]

So basically only 2/3 teams were in the title race in the EPL just like la liga.

Thanks for confirming.

I did not say something even remotely close to that.

But no surprise you are so poor in reading comprehension.

 

[jamrock]

I did not say something even remotely close to that.

But no surprise you are so poor in reading comprehension.

Yes you did, tip tapping around obvious facts. But facts are hard to deny, so you could only do so much.

2-3 teams have been capable of winning the EPL period. That's a fact.

Atleti started from a lower position, and have more or less matched Liverpool's achievements, despite all this talk of a model club and how great they are, the return has been lacking, also a fact.

But maybe the 400m they spent this summer will finally change that.

 

[Birdy]

Yes you did, tip tapping around obvious facts. But facts are hard to deny, so you could only do so much.

2-3 teams have been capable of winning the EPL period. That's a fact.

Atleti started from a lower position, and have more or less matched Liverpool's achievements, despite all this talk of a model club and how great they are, the return has been lacking, also a fact.

But maybe the 400m they spent this summer will finally change that.

I will write it one last time:
Atleti won LL titles, not EPLs.
Atleti could not win any EPL the last 20 years, not even the one Leicester won in 2016, if somehow tranferred to EPL. Barca and Madrid post 2015 could only win not more than 1 or 2 EPL titles the last 10 years.

Klopp's Liverpool, on the contrary, would win all LLs between 2018 and 2022, if somehow transferred to LL.

There is nothing more to be said to show that you can't compare any LL title to any EPL title.
If you can't understand that basic fact, then you are clueless about football. Sorry to break it to you

Don't have time to waste on someone who can't comprehend such basic stuff given in plain English

 

[jamrock]

Total Liverpool spent since klopp was manager.

2015-2025 Liverpool has spend roughly 1B euros.

Liverpool Major titles since then.

2 league titles
1 CL, 3 CL finals
1 FA cup
1Uefa super League
1 CWC.

Atleti 2011-2025 roughly 1B in euros.
2 league titles
2 EL
1 Copa del Ray
2 Uefa super cup
2 CL final appearances.

What atletico has done and simeone has much as I dislike him, equals or matches Liverpool.

That's without the great edwards 😂.

No stats all facts, folks talking about la liga as if atleti haven't been doing great in Europe as well.

 

[Rassvet]

The point with the biggest club is not just about success in champions league.
It is also about fans world wide.
As an example liverpool has 49 million followers on Instagram and barca 145 million. Also on other social media plattforms, barca is ahead.
Liverpool will never be ahead of barca in terms of fans.

But this discussion will not get to a good end: you are liverpool fan and we are barce fans. But that is no problem, you don’t have to think about this like we do

True, that's why I separate biggest from most successful.

1-2 more CL titles probably don't move the needle that much in terms of biggest clubs. Madrid were already the biggest club in 2014 and they've won 5 since then, but I don't think their lead as biggest club has grown massively during the past decade and some of that growth in status/brand is definitely down to their new stadium rather than trophies.

 

[jamrock]

When birdie and ras dude Unites you know you're right.

 

[FCBarca]

Nah, surely not Mikey.

You've been exposed repeatedly as an absolute idiot but be free to use my name for cheap comments. It's amusing to see you dig your own hole.

Your amusement doesn’t concern me, I prefer discussions based on ideas rather than racist comments or insults

Accusing me of digging holes while you’re the one standing in it. Think we’re done here

 

[Titan98]

Barca's golden era coincided with the rise of social media.

You guys had Dinho, Messi and Neymar who had massive internet followings.

That combined with your impeccable recent success means that you'll have great numbers on social media naturally.

We had our worst era before Klopp joined. When social media was on the rise, we were horrendous and a sleeping giant.

Kids growing up in that era were crazy about Barca because they were the gold standard of World Football.

And now they grow up with lamine yamal. It is also about the players you have. Liverpool have good players but never somebody like dinho, messi, neymar or lamine (all in terms of social media)
So if liverpool wins cl and overtakes Barca in social media attention we can talk but in terms of fans worldwide barca is way bigger than liverpool now

 

[Barcaman]

Your amusement doesn’t concern me, I prefer discussions based on ideas rather than racist comments or insults

Accusing me of digging holes while you’re the one standing in it. Think we’re done here

Yep. Didnt even talk to you and wouldn't even bother to reply to your worthless drivel had you not named me specifically. Rent-free in your head.

 

[Birdy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1992166329952919608

End of 2026!!!
But because he is a certified liar, expect that to be in 2027 and not early in 2027...

More than evident even for the most sheepish fans of fatty that the return right now is because he has only elections on his mind.
It's the only story he can sell to gullible folk, especially if he doesn't land 1:1 before elections...