Joan Laporta

[jamrock]

20 years? Liverpool have been the standard only since 2016/2017.

Before that we were terribly run.

We were such a mess that it took 2 to 3 years to just sort out the previous mistakes within the club.

And within that period we had to compete with Pep with unlimited resources backed by a state funded ownership group.

Winning the Prem is much tougher than winning the Liga. Terrible comparison.

Klopp's Liverpool would walk the La Liga numerous times with ease. We got 97 points and still came second in the Prem lol.

Even Barca's main rival in that period was much more of a cup team than a league team.

So 2 league titles 1 CL.

Massive success, about the same as atletico madrid.

Who had way less resources, who were competing with the two biggest clubs in the world and madrid with unlimited Spain state resources.

What Liverpool did while a solid job, really isn't that impressive, it just looks good because they were such losers before.

 

[Temptation]

So 2 league titles 1 CL.

Massive success, about the same as atletico madrid.

Who had way less resources, who were competing with the two biggest clubs in the world and madrid with unlimited Spain state resources.

What Liverpool did while a solid job, really isn't that impressive, it just looks good because they were such losers before.

In 6/7 years. First 2 years were needed to just fix the issues caused by the previous mismanagement.

So you're counting CL finals for ATM but not for Liverpool.

Klopp reached 3 CL finals with Liverpool.

Lost the Prem by 1 point twice.

Real Madrid are nowhere near Pep's City as a league team. They are a cup team.

Even Xavi came in and won LL comfortably. You think Xavi can ever win a Prem against Pep and Klopp?

Winning the Prem is much much harder than winning a Liga. There's levels to this.

 

[jamrock]

In 6/7 years. First 2 years were needed to just fix the issues caused by the previous mismanagement.

So you're counting CL finals for ATM but not for Liverpool.

Klopp reached 3 CL finals with Liverpool.

Lost the Prem by 1 point twice.

Real Madrid are nowhere near Pep's City as a league team. They are a cup team.

Even Xavi came in and won LL comfortably. You think Xavi can ever win a Prem against Pep and Klopp?

Winning the Prem is much much harder than winning a Liga. There's levels to this.

All I'm hearing is excuses for the fact that all of this talk about Liverpool's great management, it didn't result it much on the field.

What atletico has done has been vastly more impressive.

Competing with the two biggest teams in the world, winning league titles, and making it to CL finals, with way less resources than Liverpool.

Its the typical Liverpool fan behavior who wants to tell us that their is honor in finishing 2nd, no there isn't.

Atletico have been more impressive over the same period of time, and that's a fact.

 

[Temptation]

All I'm hearing is excuses for the fact that all of this talk about Liverpool's great management, it didn't result it much on the field.

What atletico has done has been vastly more impressive.

Competing with the two biggest teams in the world, winning league titles, and making it to CL finals, with way less resources than Liverpool.

Its the typical Liverpool fan behavior who wants to tell us that their is honor in finishing 2nd, no there isn't.

Atletico have been more impressive over the same period of time, and that's a fact.

You're the one counting CL finals for ATM.....

Prem is a far superior league. Even Laporta and Perez know that which is why they were pushing so hard for the Super League. Admit it.

Pep's City are a much much stronger league team than the Real Madrid of this era. Beating Pep's City in the league is a ridiculously big challenge.

 

[jamrock]

You're the one counting CL finals for ATM.....

Prem is a far superior league. Even Laporta knows that which is why he was pushing for the Super League. Admit it.

Pep's City are a much much stronger league team than the Real Madrid of this era.

Yea I am, it's atletico madrid them coming from where they are to a CL final is impressive.

If you want to say Liverpool made 3. Okay.

Doesn't change the fact that atletico madrid were starting from a much lower point, with significantly less resources and have matched or exceeded what Liverpool have been able to accomplish.

Oh the EPL is much more difficult so that's a valid excuses for klopp only winning 1 league title 😂 😂.


Atletico madrid winning titles in Spain is every bit as impressive no scratch that even more impressive than what Liverpool did.

Tired of a few talking about Liverpool has if they are this juggernaut that have been winning consistently these last few years.

When all they really are, is just the most famous losers of the last few years.

 

[Messigician]

Victor Font: "Laporta has committed many mistakes, the most important of which is allowing Lionel Messi to leave the club."

"Faced with the crossroads between Messi or Florentino, Laporta chose Florentino..."

Imagine being desperate enough to play this card.

We deserve better people running for election

 

[Rassvet]

Fair. But if we win another CL before you then we need to have a conversation about the 2nd biggest club itw.

It'd be between Barca, Bayern and Liverpool.

Right now I have Bayern and Barca ahead of Liverpool but it's very close.

Liverpool could be in conversation for 2nd most successful club with another CL but I don't think they would move up from 5th in biggest clubs

Biggest clubs

1. Madrid
2. United
3. Barca
4. Bayern
5. Liverpool

Most Successful Clubs

1. Madrid.
2. Bayern
3. Barca
4. Liverpool
5. Milan (their domestic title record is poor)

 

[Titan98]

The point with the biggest club is not just about success in champions league.
It is also about fans world wide.
As an example liverpool has 49 million followers on Instagram and barca 145 million. Also on other social media plattforms, barca is ahead.
Liverpool will never be ahead of barca in terms of fans.

But this discussion will not get to a good end: you are liverpool fan and we are barce fans. But that is no problem, you don’t have to think about this like we do

 

[Birdy]

Yea I am, it's atletico madrid them coming from where they are to a CL final is impressive.

If you want to say Liverpool made 3. Okay.

Doesn't change the fact that atletico madrid were starting from a much lower point, with significantly less resources and have matched or exceeded what Liverpool have been able to accomplish.

Oh the EPL is much more difficult so that's a valid excuses for klopp only winning 1 league title 😂 😂.


Atletico madrid winning titles in Spain is every bit as impressive no scratch that even more impressive than what Liverpool did.

Tired of a few talking about Liverpool has if they are this juggernaut that have been winning consistently these last few years.

When all they really are, is just the most famous losers of the last few years.

You start from faulty premises

You can't compare 'league titles' when one league is a 2.5 horse race, and the other is the most competitive league in the world where best coaches and unlimited funds compete against each other every season.

A 5yr old would get that, sorry

 

[Temptation]

The point with the biggest club is not just about success in champions league.
It is also about fans world wide.
As an example liverpool has 49 million followers on Instagram and barca 145 million. Also on other social media plattforms, barca is ahead.
Liverpool will never be ahead of barca in terms of fans.

But this discussion will not get to a good end: you are liverpool fan and we are barce fans. But that is no problem, you don’t have to think about this like we do

Barca's golden era coincided with the rise of social media.

You guys had Dinho, Messi and Neymar who had massive internet followings.

That combined with your impeccable recent success means that you'll have great numbers on social media naturally.

We had our worst era before Klopp joined. When social media was on the rise, we were horrendous and a sleeping giant.

Kids growing up in that era were crazy about Barca because they were the gold standard of World Football.

 

[jamrock]

You start from faulty premises

You can't compare 'league titles' when one league is a 2.5 horse race, and the other is the most competitive league in the world where best coaches and unlimited funds compete against each other every season.

A 5yr old would get that, sorry

So much of a race that only two teams have in it. Yes okay. Lol.

At any one point in the last 20+ years there has NEVER been at any point more than 3 teams with a realistic chance of winning the EPL, so just like la liga.

Can't make it that easy.

And again atleti started from a significantly lower position that Liverpool that's a fact and more or less matched them with less resources.

People out here trying to tell us Liverpool is the model.

2 league titles in that time, Barca would never stand for that lol

 

[MonteCuler]

It's funny how Font says Messi should not be used as political tool yet he keeps doing it on daily basis

Also saw him saying some shit about signing Haaland. Not directly but when journalist asked him

To me there are no indications he won't lie as much as Laporta does, once he gets the position and he wants to protect his money at all costs

 

[Barcaman]

You can’t take people like Bojan or @Birdy seriously

Nah, surely not Mikey.

You've been exposed repeatedly as an absolute idiot but be free to use my name for cheap comments. It's amusing to see you dig your own hole.

 

[Barcaman]

Disclaimer: not supporting this Font retard at all. He sounds more stupid than Laporta even.

And here I was thinking Catalans are smart, businesslike people. And this is best they come up with it. Lol

Well, could be worse. Could end up with Elena Fort or some creature like that.

Valverde knew. It is what it is.

 

[Birdy]

So much of a race that only two teams have in it. Yes okay. Lol.

At any one point in the last 20+ years there has NEVER been at any point more than 3 teams with a realistic chance of winning the EPL, so just like la liga.

Can't make it that easy.

And again atleti starter from a significantly lower position that Liverpool that's a fact and more or less matched them with less resources.

People out here trying to tell us Liverpool is the model.

2 league titles in that time, Barca would never stand for that lol

You have serious reading comprehension issues

The last 15 years in EPL, many times before a season begun, no one had a clue which 2 or 3 would contend until the end for the title. many examples: 14/15, 15/16, 16/17, 17/18, 23/24, 24/25, this season

Between 18 and 22, Liverpool and City made it a clear 2 horse race because they became the two best teams in the world with substantial distance from the third. Something like Barca and Madrid in the Pep Vs Mourinho years

On the contrary, in LL the last 20 years, you know its either Barca or Madrid 95% of the times, and there is a 5% where both have a bad season, when you know Atleti will be the one getting the chance.
That means in plain English the league is not competitive, if you know beforehand who will win it

AGAIN: Even a 10yr old would understand that you can't compare league titles when there is such difference in competitiveness. There is no point in discussing with someone who doesn't get the basic fact that you can't compare apples with oranges

PS: It's laughable that you even think Atleti achieved the same as Liverpool.
Flip it around. Had Klopp took over Barca or Madrid in 2015 instead of Pool, he would have gotten 7 or 8 leagues in 9 years in the farmers LL
Levels...