Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Nello

Member
Yeah, doesn't look too good. Shouldn't overdramatize it, as everyone has a bad day, but he looked pretty empty after the game. It'll become dangerous once this feeling starts to occur frequently, then he can decide he has had enough.
I can imagine it's frustrating for him, because no matter how much he teaches and tells them in training to press, not to lose the balls stupidly, in games they relapse for the worse again. Bilbao looked like a step forward, only to make the step back again against Alaves. I don't even think he's disappointed with certain players, but with the overall situation of the squad, maybe blames himself too.
The important part is, that he still believes he can change the team for the better, otherwise he'll leave at the end of the season.

The players should be aware of this. If they want to keep him for longer, they have to work harder again.
Sometimes there's also limits to how much you can do with the players at your disposal.
At a large, we overachieved last season and played entertaining football that made everybody hopeful for more.

But reality is all real top teams inject new quality into their squads every year, in order to keep the squad competitive, hungry and balanced. Our only proper top signing, Joan Garcia, is already making us a lot more competitive and changing games for the better.

Besides that, injuries, departures and an ageing Lewandowski has only made the squad worse.
Players like Rashford, Kounde, Martin, Balde, Casado, Fermin, Old Lewa, Ferran, Olmo, Araujo and Cubarsí can at their current best play a supporting role in an otherwise stacked team, but will never consistently make out the core of a true top team. Yet they make up more than half of our XI more often than not.
 

jaype

Well-known member
You are very harsh.

With the club financial situation, we should be lucky to have a top coach like him.

We should be grateful he wanted to go to this club.
No, he should be grateful to be a coach of FC Barcelona.

I'm not against him, I think he has instilled a much needed fight till the end spirit as evidenced by all the comebacks last season.

What irks me is the hypocrites who whined about Xavi's excuses for the quality of the squad, and now are excusing Hansi saying he doesn't have the quality, give me a fucking break. The double standard is hilarious.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Xavi was offering excuses himself, Flick doesn't

It's a big difference

It is a fact that Xavi had a shit squad and it had no business competing with top teams, but saying that himself was sack worthy

Similarily if Flick now said "both of my strikers are morons, my defense is full of idiots, players are dropping like flies and I won't get a single player in transfer window" he wouldn't be lying at all. But it would be wrong
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Xavi was offering excuses himself, Flick doesn't

It's a big difference

It is a fact that Xavi had a shit squad and it had no business competing with top teams, but saying that himself was sack worthy

Similarily if Flick now said "both of my strikers are morons, my defense is full of idiots, players are dropping like flies and I won't get a single player in transfer window" he wouldn't be lying at all. But it would be wrong

Yup!

Plus, Flick was frustrated the team did not play well
he was NOT frustrated he doesn't have money to buy new ones

Totally different.

It's funny how Xavi apologists find always fanciful ways to justify his whinism and overestimate him.

No, he is not on the same tier as Flick, and he will never be.
Both as a coach, and as a man
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Obviously, Xavi's whining was as annoying as Flick's apologists

You're comparing Xavi whining in the press to some posts on this forum.

Xavi wasn't wrong about the lack of spending/funds, but saying that publicly is what cost him the job as Laporta was ready to keep him.
 

Devils

Senior Member
Xavi was right.

Said that the squad was not good enough two years ago and still the exact same defenders are at this club lmao!

At least Flick was able to make the midfield and attack work at a far better level than Xavi did.

Of course coaches will be demoralized here. Expected to compete for trophies against some of the best teams in Europe while having a non-existent budget and having idiots above them making foolish transfers and renewals.

Easily the hardest coaching job in Europe. Any manager would struggle to be consistently successful in this environment.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
who is justifying Xavi's whining? he was rightfully sacked. All I'm pointing out is the hypocrisy from some fans.

What hypocrisy?

Most people said that Xavi should have had the team play better football, but at the same time we needed better players. It's just the public outbursts that was a terrible look. He made it sound like he was managing Valencia at times with his comments.

Need to keep that in-house.

The issue is the same as always. Lack of FFP room, money to spend on transfers and the wrong transfers being made.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
If we cannot return back to operating normally in the transfer market by 2027 then it will be Laporta that will be under pressure, and you need to seriously consider a change in the ownership model as Real Madrid.

The manager won't even matter at that point because it is going to be impossible for us to compete at the highest level. Could have Pep or Lucho and it wouldn't matter.

Heck we need a couple of CBs, a RB and Striker in 2026 and we're probably going to get one or two good players max.
 

jaype

Well-known member
What hypocrisy?

Most people said that Xavi should have had the team play better football, but at the same time we needed better players. It's just the public outbursts that was a terrible look. He made it sound like he was managing Valencia at times with his comments.

Need to keep that in-house.

The issue is the same as always. Lack of FFP room, money to spend on transfers and the wrong transfers being made.
Go back few pages on this thread or the multiple player threads. I cant be bothered to. Not trying to convince you or anyone.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
Flick said it, he got emotional because of all the lost balls in midfield. There are no subs for Frenkie and Pedri. The club never addressed the DM situation after Busquets and ran under the illusion Casado and Bernal could operate like they are not Tercera level players.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Those two aren't making us win that game much more If any at all more comfortably than we did yesterday, especially in the 2nd half.

He's just looking for an excuse if that's what he said.
 

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