Xavi Hernandez

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Tha hell you talking about freak accident? It?s easily explainable why it happened.

Injuries mixed with poor team choices in reaction to those.

Issues such as importance of FDJ to the team should now be resolved to give Barca best chance

On one had some folk will tell you Frenkie is best midfielder/player at club but wont say Xavi made a mistake in not playing him.

Will most likely claim Xavi was not wrong in not playing/rating him high enough and try to give Xavi all the credit for how good he has been this season.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Calls, injuries and poor team choices all contributed.

Even with the bad calls it came down to beating Inter at home and played a horrible game.

Can lose a game but not to give team best chance is the frustration.
 

serghei

Senior Member
You have to learn and live with some disappointments. If we got this close to a domestic treble + this close to a CL semifinal in our first rebuild season, with La Liga so openly against us... mate... this is already surreal territory.

Learn to live with a big success and start accepting that fairy-tale scenarios happen extremely rarely. Wasn't to be this season, but realize this is still great and stop hating on the members of this club that made it all happen.

Laporta and Xavi are all 100% Barcelona, no frills, all breath Blaugrana without doubt. Enough for me to hang on in their corner. Laporta and Xavi are fanatics for this club, they will not cease or stop until we are back at the top, no matter how long it takes.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
You have to learn and live with some disappointments. If we got this close to a domestic treble + this close to a CL semifinal in our first rebuild season... son... this is already surreal territory.

Well yes and if starting point is team is poor and cant win for years then easier to brush off defeats.

When expect to do better with players have and win then at certain points then it is a frustration when bad decisions are made.

I doubt anyone demands a CL semi final but this season to beat those teams in Europe are better than squad wise and any above that try to be competitive.

Not only Plzen beaten in last 10 European games.

Can still be pissed off about Europe and happy about league and hope they learn from mistakes made.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Look at Xavi's celebration for Kessie's goal. That's raw, man is one of the biggest club legends, tier 1 bar none, as big as anyone ever. If you care for this club, you will care for him and root for him. That's all. Rest is silly forum games.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Look at Xavi's celebration for Kessie's goal. That's raw, man is one of the biggest club legends, tier 1 bar none, as big as anoyone ever. If you care for this club, you will care for him and root for him. That's all. Rest is silly forum games.

Yes and some called it thar Barca would compete for titles and not years away.

How much a legend he is has no relevance either way.

Go find the folk that claimed he should be sacked, can do no right and will win nothing if that suits you but you have been massively wrong on the players and capability of this Barca anyway so will be too easy a comeback.
 

Porque

Senior Member
No shame in seeing where Xavi gets/got it wrong. He is a learning coach with an excellent base.

Probably get out of that CL group if it were played today.

Still, huge hit to miss the CL money this year as projections were made off of it. Who knows, the squad/team may even regress next year if we're forced to make some sales we don't want to, and unable to replace them. So nothing guaranteed.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yes and some called it thar Barca would compete for titles and not years away.

How much a legend he is has no relevance either way.

Who did? That's the haters trying to put pressure on Xavi and point fingers if it failed.

Real life scenario is Xavi picked up a team on 9th place, shamed in Europe by Bayern 8-2, fighting for top 4 in Spain. And in 16 months or so, him and Laporta turned them into La Liga beasts, running away with the league against La Liga and CL champions beating them like 4 times in the last 5 games.

Come on... it won't kill you to get on board here and give up a bit of your ego.

The reality is Xavi improved the team from almost day 1. And he did that with not much experience, but a whole lot of motivation and hard work. The guy is obssessed about football, and the sooner you realize that is rare and the mark of a future top manager, the better.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Who did? That's the haters trying to put pressure on Xavi and point fingers if it failed.

Real life scenario is Xavi picked up a team on 9th place, shamed in Europe by Bayern 8-2, fighting for top 4 in Spain. And in 16 months or so, him and Laporta turned them into La Liga beasts, running away with the league against La Liga and CL champions beating them like 4 times in the last 5 games.

Come on... it won't kill you to get on board here and give up a bit of your ego.

The reality is Xavi improved the team from almost day 1. And he did that with not much experience, but a whole lot of motivation and hard work. The guy is obssessed about football, and the sooner you realize that is rare and the mark of a future top manager, the better.

You said didnt expect Barca to win for years and worse squad than Spurs etc.

My ego?

I am the one who said Barca would compete domesticlly and dont have worse squad than Real.

You were wrong and over played how bad Barca were as didnt actually believe Xavi could win with this squad.

You cant compare all what Barca went through at start of that season to now either way. Put Xavi in that situation an he like any coach struggles.

I believed Barca could win this season you didnt. I said the players you derided were much better than you make out and were good enough to compete.

You caught up it seems after claiming couldnt challenge for years.

One of us was right...and it isnt you.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
You said didnt expect Barca to win for years and worse squad than Spurs etc.

My ego?

I am the one who said Barca would compete domesticlly and dont have worse squad than Real.

You were wrong and over played how bad Barca were as didnt actually believe Xavi could win with this squad.

You got it wrong. Xavi is even better than I expected. His energy and ambition are insane. The guy is a fanatic like Pep.

You said those things because you are a very perverse type of poster. You sensed you might be wrong on Xavi, but instead of admitting it, you basically tried to dimish his value in this club over the whole year or more.

Get rid of this type of maniupation. It does you a big disservice.

When I asked you some months ago flat out if you thought Xavi would fail, you were hesitant in giving me a clear answer because you care far too much of being perceived as on the winning end of an argument.

This doesn't matter on such forums. This forum is not some sort of microcosmos of life. You can enjoy yourself and take the piss, for me more than half its value is commenting here while being half-drunk and smoking a cigar.

We don't know each other one bit at the end of the day. For me the ideal value of this place would be to take the piss in bad times, and rejoice and be positive when things are changing for the good. And it's losing that value fast.

This is turning out to be a place wanting and needing bad days for the club in order for some to feel gratitude and release in their pessimistic self-entitled nature. This fucking place should be beaming with confidence now. Instead I have to waste my time defending the club and the manager for what is to be an amazing season.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
You got it wrong. Xavi is even better than I expected. His energy and ambition are insane. The guy is a fanatic like Pep.

You said those things because you are a very perverse type of poster. You sensed you might be wrong on Xavi, but instead of admitting it, you basically tried to dimish his value in this club over the whole year or more.

Get rid of this type of maniupation. It does you a big disservice.

Nope I got it right.

Said Barca would compete and not 'years away and worse than Spurs' as you claimed.

On Xavi backed him plenty on Dembele, MATS, your wee Riqui, how he now plays FDJ etc and changes made to team set up since took FDJ back in.

Given him plenty of credit... and also said where I think made mistakes.

You?

MAde out Barca squad is poor and years away from winning and undertaking mental gymnastics any times Xavi makes a mistake as not being on him.

That is the reality.

You wont even say Xavi was wrong to not play a player you claim is best at Barca from start v Inter etc.
 
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