Xavi Hernández

[JamDav1982]

I don't know where you saw these tactical failures. But the goals we conceded were down to individual mistakes in almost every European game. At Bayern also horrible finishing in 1 vs 1 scenarios. Then conceding from a fucking corner because of poor marking.

Tactical failures is picking players in positions who made those mistakes and were left open to them.

The mistakes these players made were not for the first time either and were left wide open to it.

That is same argument as Xavi cant get praised if team wins from moment of individual brilliance.

 

[serghei]

Tactical failures is picking players in positions who made those mistakes and were left open to them.

The mistakes these players made were not for the first time either and were left wide open to it.

That is same argument as Xavi cant get praised if team wins from moment of individual brilliance.

So, trusting the wrong players then, not tactical after all. I can agree to that, but it's a honest mistake. The reactions were over the top by a huge factor. Absolutely to be expected for a young manager in charge of a new team lol.

That's what all the outrage is about? That and the fact that we don't play exuberant offensive stuff? ... Please...

 

[JamDav1982]

Normally, no. But Pique was fucking diabolical in that game. Absolutely like watching a spectator play.

This is the game that finished Pique and Garcia at this club.

What?

Starting FDJ who you claim is best player at club would 'normally make no difference'?

Starting your best players makes a difference to teams.

 

[jamrock]

Nonsense.

FDJ is Barcas best mid and was on bench.

Best team gives best chance to win and they improved after he came on.

And that would have made 0 difference much like it made zero difference against Man utd, when we were a much better as a team at that point of the season than we were against inter.

Your constant drive to make FJD the saviour of Barcelona doesn't compute, he's a great player when things are going well and has no impact when things aren't, he's not a difference maker the way you try to make him out to be, only person in our Midfield that can do that is Pedri.

FDJ Start we still lose, but keep clinging to that though.

 

[JamDav1982]

So, trusting the wrong players then, not tactical after all. I can agree to that, but it's a honest mistake. The reactions were over the top by a huge factor.

Trusting the wrong players in a tactical set up that left them exposed yes.

Busi losing ball and wandering out of position in all CL games more or less than putting him at lone DM on front of that defence v Inter left both Busi and the defence exposed tactically.

 

[jamrock]

What?

Starting FDJ who you claim is best player at club would 'normally make no difference'?

Starting your best players makes a difference to teams.

Like he made a difference against Man UTD right? Or all out other failures in Europe with him as a starter.

 

[JamDav1982]

And that would have made 0 difference much like it made zero difference against Man utd, when we were a much better as a team at that point of the season than we were against inter.

Your constant drive to make FJD the saviour of Barcelona doesn't compute, he's a great player when things are going well and has no impact when things aren't, he's not a difference maker the way you try to make him out to be, only person in our Midfield that can do that is Pedri.

FDJ Start we still lose, but keep clinging to that though.

Nah that is flawed argument.

You rlogic says Pedri and Dembele not missed v United as lost with them already.

Do better.

Best players make a difference and FDJ is crucial to Barca and giving them best chance to win.

 

[serghei]

It's all hindsight anyway. The situation was bad because of external circumtances, like injuries, bad group, shitty ref decisions. It's normal to suffer in these circumstances. You have to accept it, move on, and improve so it doesn't happen again.

Of course the decisions weren't spot on either, bad context usually leads you to making uncomfortable decisions, which are often the wrong ones. Adapt, move on, fuck all of this is failry par for the course for a young team in early rebuild such as ours.

I wish Pep in 2010 was more pragmatic at 1-0 ahead vs Inter in Italy, so that they don't manage to score goals on counter attacks while being behind at home. That match was among the worst in his first 3 years.

 

[JamDav1982]

Like he made a difference against Man UTD right? Or all out other failures in Europe with him as a starter.

Ok then Pedri and Dembele were not missed v United.

Great argument as usual from you jammy.

Surely you didnt claim Pedri,Gavi and Dembele were missed v United and arguing against yourself?

Surely not.

 

[JamDav1982]

It's all hindsight anyway. The situation was bad because of external circumtances, like injuries, bad group, shitty ref decisions. It's normal to suffer in these circumstances. You have to accept it, move on, and improve so it doesn't happen again.

Not really.. both lnter and Man Utd line ups were discussed.

The way you 'move on' is if club dont make same mistakes again.

 

[jamrock]

Ok then Pedri and Dembele were not missed v United.

Great argument as usual from you jammy.

So players being out is an excuse when it suits you & de jong 😂😂.

This guy bruv.

 

[JamDav1982]

So players being out is an excuse when it suits you & de jong ����.

This guy bruv.

Eh?

I am saying Xavi did not start best team v Inter and FDJ was missed. Not just him.

You are one that are saying likes of Pedri/Gavi/Dembele were not missed v United with your top logic.

I think all of them were missed.

Usual awful argument from Jammy.

 

[ajnotkeith]

It's all hindsight anyway. The situation was bad because of external circumtances, like injuries, bad group, shitty ref decisions. It's normal to suffer in these circumstances. You have to accept it, move on, and improve so it doesn't happen again.

Of course the decisions weren't spot on either, bad context usually leads you to making uncofortable decisions, which are often the wrong ones. Adapt, move on, fuck all of this is failry par for the course for a young team in early rebuild such as ours.

Yes with the key point being that it's different next season and we make a great European run.

If the team is good enough to be 12 points ahead of Madrid it is surely good enough to make a run next season.

Nobody will hold Europe against him much if that happens.

 

[serghei]

Not really.. both lnter and Man Utd line ups were discussed.

The way you 'move on' is if club dont make same mistakes again.

First the club should work on making sure they don't find themselves in the same situation again. Hence my push for improving the squad to make sure you don't have terrible players such as Pique and Garcia having to step in in such a key game.

 

[JamDav1982]

First the club should work on to make sure they don't find themselves in the same situation again.

They were not in situation had to play all those players and dealing with adversity better is more important as freak injury list could happen.

He didnt start who you claim is best player at club. Who would have been best placed to try and help protect Busi and that back line.