Xavi Hernández

[iniestaGOAT]

Exactly. Managers who have inferior squads but are playing superior football.
Watching Xavi celebrating with his brother yesterday was nauseating. Acting like his brother and he had put ob a tactical master class in a CL final. With a little luck Socided would have beat us 3 zip.

You mean like TEN HAAG?

He is playing gutter ball after spending 1 BILLION.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Sounded happy again. Apparently we undeservedly lost against Real so all was ok and now we won despite being a lesser team and again all is ok.

So many bad performances so this season that once we play well I get surprised.

Exactly there should be no excuses for this terrible performance. Dog ****.

 

[Porque]

Exactly. Managers who have inferior squads but are playing superior football.
Watching Xavi celebrating with his brother yesterday was nauseating. Acting like his brother and he had put ob a tactical master class in a CL final. With a little luck Socided would have beat us 3 zip.

Celebration was worthwhile to be fair. We were dogshit and got a huge win.

Rayo drawing at Bernabeu magnifies the importance of the result.

 

[Messi983]

Sounded happy again. Apparently we undeservedly lost against Real so all was ok and now we won despite being a lesser team and again all is ok.

So many bad performances so this season that once we play well I get surprised.

Would be crazy not to be happy after getting a late win. Clearly wasn't pleased with the performance though.

“It's three golden points. They have a lot of value. It will give us morale and confidence to continue.” He wanted to be “honest” and admitted that “Real has deserved better luck. We have to be honest and self-critical. They have pushed us a lot. We have won a game without being well. "We have had the luck that we didn't have against Madrid."

Xavi explained that “in the first 25 minutes we had a Clásico hangover, which affected us more than I thought,” but the loot is different. “We won a very important victory” but those first 25 minutes “were unacceptable.” He has the feeling that “we have removed the thorn in the Clásico in a field where Real hasn't lost for 17 games.” He was even very explicit in his self-criticism: “Today is an example of what not to do in the first part.”

The coach openly admitted that “today we do have to be self-critical of the game, not last week, when we deserved to win. Today we didn't deserve it and we won." And the team has entered the game “very badly, without intensity.” “If we do not have intensity we cannot compete, but through faith and courage we have achieved a vital victory” in a stadium “where few teams will win.” Still, “we have to improve.”


Coaches have to be critical but also think about morale of their team. You don't come out and say something like "we were shit etc." after a tough loss like last week. Especially since we actually deserved at least a point.

Personally I've never cared too much about what coaches are saying in press conferences anyway. Getting updated status on the injured players is what I'm usually the most interested in. Other than that it's 99% just "coaches talk".

What's more important is what he says to the players in the locker room. I think he's harsher on them there than in public which is what good coaches should be doing. You don't throw your team under the bus Mourinho style if you want to build a longterm winning culture.

And if Xavi has done something it's create a positive atmosphere around his team despite the club going through one of the darkest periods in our history. Clearly the worst looking from a financial perspective.

Xavi is not great but still the best possible available coach for this team imo. Mainly because he knows the club like his own pocket and can handle the pressure and "politics" that are part of the every day here and something coaches in other teams don't really have to deal with.

There are clearly coaches who are tactically superior to Xavi but they wouldn't be given time to fully implement their ideas before they would succumb the pressure of Barca after losing 2 or 3 games.

Like it or not we've not hired a "proven" coach in almost 30 years. But at the same time this was also the most successful period in club history so we must be doing something right.

LVG was the last coach who has won the CL with another club before taking over here. After him EV had by far the best CV before his appointment.

Rijkaard was relegated with Sparta Rotterdam, Pep coached Barca B in 4th division for a year, Tito was his assistant, Tata never managed in Europe before or after Barca, Lucho flopped at Roma, Setien was always a midtable La Liga coach and Koeman despite being a coach for almost two decades did nothing worthwile in club football and had the most success in his short time as NT manager.


So we can have our list of outside managers who will "save us" but that is very unlikely to happen. If/when Xavi leaves he'll probably be replaced by Rafa Marquez or another former player. Who could turn out great but it's also as likely if not more that after him being in charge for 2-3 months fans would want Xavi back.

Just how the things work here. Barca fans are impossible to please. Even if we win 5-0 certain folk will complain about Gavi losing two balls or Ferran missing a sitter.

Like it or not as a very smart man used to say It is what it is.

 

[JamDav1982]

Whether Barca were shit or not cant have a go at anyone for celebrating the win..

Sociedad are a good side.. not as good as looked at weekend but good nonetheless.

They were fairly 'unlucky' not to take six points off Barca and Real and be up near top of league really.

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

Would be crazy not to be happy after getting a late win. Clearly wasn't pleased with the performance though.

“It's three golden points. They have a lot of value. It will give us morale and confidence to continue.” He wanted to be “honest” and admitted that “Real has deserved better luck. We have to be honest and self-critical. They have pushed us a lot. We have won a game without being well. "We have had the luck that we didn't have against Madrid."

Xavi explained that “in the first 25 minutes we had a Clásico hangover, which affected us more than I thought,” but the loot is different. “We won a very important victory” but those first 25 minutes “were unacceptable.” He has the feeling that “we have removed the thorn in the Clásico in a field where Real hasn't lost for 17 games.” He was even very explicit in his self-criticism: “Today is an example of what not to do in the first part.”

The coach openly admitted that “today we do have to be self-critical of the game, not last week, when we deserved to win. Today we didn't deserve it and we won." And the team has entered the game “very badly, without intensity.” “If we do not have intensity we cannot compete, but through faith and courage we have achieved a vital victory” in a stadium “where few teams will win.” Still, “we have to improve.”


Coaches have to be critical but also think about morale of their team. You don't come out and say something like "we were shit etc." after a tough loss like last week. Especially since we actually deserved at least a point.

Personally I've never cared too much about what coaches are saying in press conferences anyway. Getting updated status on the injured players is what I'm usually the most interested in. Other than that it's 99% just "coaches talk".

What's more important is what he says to the players in the locker room. I think he's harsher on them there than in public which is what good coaches should be doing. You don't throw your team under the bus Mourinho style if you want to build a longterm winning culture.

And if Xavi has done something it's create a positive atmosphere around his team despite the club going through one of the darkest periods in our history. Clearly the worst looking from a financial perspective.

Xavi is not great but still the best possible available coach for this team imo. Mainly because he knows the club like his own pocket and can handle the pressure and "politics" that are part of the every day here and something coaches in other teams don't really have to deal with.

There are clearly coaches who are tactically superior to Xavi but they wouldn't be given time to fully implement their ideas before they would succumb the pressure of Barca after losing 2 or 3 games.

Like it or not we've not hired a "proven" coach in almost 30 years. But at the same time this was also the most successful period in club history so we must be doing something right.

LVG was the last coach who has won the CL with another club before taking over here. After him EV had by far the best CV before his appointment.

Rijkaard was relegated with Sparta Rotterdam, Pep coached Barca B in 4th division for a year, Tito was his assistant, Tata never managed in Europe before or after Barca, Lucho flopped at Roma, Setien was always a midtable La Liga coach and Koeman despite being a coach for almost two decades did nothing worthwile in club football and had the most success in his short time as NT manager.


So we can have our list of outside managers who will "save us" but that is very unlikely to happen. If/when Xavi leaves he'll probably be replaced by Rafa Marquez or another former player. Who could turn out great but it's also as likely if not more that after him being in charge for 2-3 months fans would want Xavi back.

Just how the things work here. Barca fans are impossible to please. Even if we win 5-0 certain folk will complain about Gavi losing two balls or Ferran missing a sitter.

Like it or not as a very smart man used to say It is what it is.

 

[serghei]

Very important to get the 3 pts in these rounds, even if not playing well. These are the first undeserved points this season anyway, mostly lost points by being idiots so far.

 

[jamrock]

Very important to get the 3 pts in these rounds, even if not playing well. These are the first undeserved points this season anyway, mostly lost points by being idiots so far.

Facts

 

[JamDav1982]

Top teams always think dropping points is their own fault.

 

[FC B]

Any passing day spent here after the current season will be costing the club hugely. Laporta must replace him in the summer even if he somehow manages to win LL once more which atm looks unlikely. Unless some kind of a wonder will happen they are going out of CL KOs pretty soon and pretty embarrassing yet again. The team plays poorer than in the previous seasons and most players look unmotivated and lack good form.

 

[FCBarca]

He’ll make it to summer but it won’t prevent the media pressure for his replacement if things do not dramatically improve in terms of the eye test much less trophies or how far the team advances in CL

A shortlist of names will be covered in no time I believe. Of course, perhaps more than anything he lacks a strong #2 in his brother vs Ten Cate or Sarabia to keep the mentality in the right place

Pep had a year in the 4th division with Tito but the key was that he got the team playing in the manner we expect and won them promotion - without a big budget and singling out key players like Busi & Pedro that he brought to the 1st team. The difference is having ideas/tactics and being able to effectively impart them to your players so that it shows on the pitch. The ingredients are there to do similar and I think we can safely say that if Guardiola was coaching this team, the play on the pitch would be far different than what we have witnessed

 

[iniestaGOAT]

He’ll make it to summer but it won’t prevent the media pressure for his replacement if things do not dramatically improve in terms of the eye test much less trophies or how far the team advances in CL

A shortlist of names will be covered in no time I believe. Of course, perhaps more than anything he lacks a strong #2 in his brother vs Ten Cate or Sarabia to keep the mentality in the right place

Pep had a year in the 4th division with Tito but the key was that he got the team playing in the manner we expect and won them promotion - without a big budget and singling out key players like Busi & Pedro that he brought to the 1st team. The difference is having ideas/tactics and being able to effectively impart them to your players so that it shows on the pitch. The ingredients are there to do similar and I think we can safely say that if Guardiola was coaching this team, the play on the pitch would be far different than what we have witnessed

Its fooking PEP you muppet. He is literally the GOAT.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Having said that..
Could PEP have had this team playing better? Very likely
Would PEP have won the league last season? Possible
Would PEP have won the UCL last season? HELL NO

 

[BusiTheKing]

What could easily have neutralized the problem of having a coach without experience is having an assistant coach with experience. Someone with a solid, practical grasp on the basic principles, who could keep Xavi's idealism in check and make sure we don't fly off into fantasy land.

Seems insane that we didn't insist on that.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Whether Barca were shit or not cant have a go at anyone for celebrating the win..

Sociedad are a good side.. not as good as looked at weekend but good nonetheless.

They were fairly 'unlucky' not to take six points off Barca and Real and be up near top of league really.

Sociedad is in a great form. Look at their CL games. I doubt Barca would lead that group.