Xavi Hernandez

[Birdy]

Well yes and no. If you are proven then to an extent the club will give give more liberties to build your project. Take Klopp at Liverpool, sure they gave him time to build the project having had huge success at Dortmund. But also, he had more freedom because at the point of take over Liverpool was a very (or at best modesty) pressured club. There was no expectation to win anything instantly compared to Xavi coming in here or Nagelsmann going into Bayern.

But even so, Klopp is/was capped on signings (notorious example of him wanting Brandt over Salah) while if he were at Dortmund or Maine, he would have probably got his choice.

I'd say Arsenal would be in the same boat where they were a top level club in name but not expectation nor pressure. Klopp and Arteta get the can at Barca or Bayern for having the type of seasons they had at the beginning of their EPL tenures for example, at these respective clubs.

What I don't agree with is that there are clubs 'pressured' to win and clubs not.
Every big club's goal is to win titles, the difference is how you approach that objective.
Liverpool for instance, had a method and it involved trusting the right manager long-term. That doesn't mean he could do anything he wanted, hence the involvement of other departments in transfers for instance. And eventually it yielded phenomenal results, given their net spent over the last 8 years.
The bad seasons that you mention are part of the process, and you have to accept them as long as the direction is progressive and the roadmap is clear
Look at Arteta. He was never gonna win in his first 2 or even 3 years, but the signs were there: every 6 months there was progress in the way they were playing.
Same approach can very well apply to bayern and Barca if there is plan and method (questionable about both right now)

The whole mentality 'win now' 'big clubs should get titles immediately' is a Madrid (and Juventus) mentality that has infected many big clubs unfortunately

 

[iniestaGOAT]

He's a top manager and with stability I believe he will stay at a club for a longer time.
Nowadays managers don't do long term anyway. Three seasons is usually the max a manager will stay. Klopp,Pep and Arteta are the exceptions really and they are all backed by their boards. Klopp would probably have been sacked by Real, Chelsea or Bayern this season.

Whata you believe is irreleavnt.

You have already proven you are nothing but a shit poster. Your forum posts belong in the gutter.

 

[serghei]

Well yes and no. If you are proven then to an extent the club will give give more liberties to build your project. Take Klopp at Liverpool, sure they gave him time to build the project having had huge success at Dortmund. But also, he had more freedom because at the point of take over Liverpool was a very (or at best modesty) pressured club. There was no expectation to win anything instantly compared to Xavi coming in here or Nagelsmann going into Bayern.

But even so, Klopp is/was capped on signings (notorious example of him wanting Brandt over Salah) while if he were at Dortmund or Maine, he would have probably got his choice.

I'd say Arsenal would be in the same boat where they were a top level club in name but not expectation nor pressure. Klopp and Arteta get the can at Barca or Bayern for having the type of seasons they had at the beginning of their EPL tenures for example, at these respective clubs.

Regarding the second part, it shouldn't and hopefully it doesn't. Hopefully the board keeps strong, pays its lip service to the press about wanting Messi (back because which president would deny the return of the clubs greatest ever player) but doesn't make these backwards steps, and instead continues to work intensely on the new projects direction.

And yeah, if after the 23/24 season there is no growth in Xavi managing, and with all the remnants of the amigos hopefully gone (won't happen, already talk of an Umtiti esque renewal for Alba, fuck me) we can look at another opton.

Good post.

At Barca, Madrid, Bayern, if you don't win big titles and play nice football you are out quickly.

 

[Barcilliant]

Whata you believe is irreleavnt.

You have already proven you are nothing but a shit poster. Your forum posts belong in the gutter.

Actually you are irrelevant. A shit kicker with no idea about football.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

La Liga plan to somewhat lift restrictions on Financial Fair Play for next season. Tebas is crazy about Messi's possible return. [
@Manu_Sainz


Not gonna lie, the only manger in the world who can make messi's return work in this team is xavi

 

[FC B]

Good post.

At Barca, Madrid, Bayern, if you don't win big titles and play nice football you are out quickly.

Madrid playing nice football is a scarcity.

 

[Gari]

La Liga plan to somewhat lift restrictions on Financial Fair Play for next season. Tebas is crazy about Messi's possible return. [
@Manu_Sainz


Not gonna lie, the only manger in the world who can make messi's return work in this team is xavi

It all depends on the desires of one person? Okay, perfect management.

 

[Andresito]

Tebas ain't gonna do shit that benefit us.

 

[Porque]

It would be a fuckin joke to relax FFP for Messi, but not for the long term health of the club. One helps the league short term, the other long term.

Fuckin Goof.

 

[Redbuck]

Good post.

At Barca, Madrid, Bayern, if you don't win big titles and play nice football you are out quickly.

Madrid playing good football ??? If any team is the definition of playing terrible football and winning, then it's Real Madrid

 

[Sailor Mars]

La Liga plan to somewhat lift restrictions on Financial Fair Play for next season. Tebas is crazy about Messi's possible return. [
@Manu_Sainz

Tebas probably thought that Real Madrid would sign Mbappe or perhaps Haaland and give La Liga another young marketable superstar, but when Madrid signed no one- media partners and sponsors probably told Tebas to get some more star power and make their sponsorship deals worth it.

 

[te amo barca]

Xavi: "Messi? Let’s listen to fate if it's so wise… Let's see what happens, there's nothing yet. Let's see how willing he is. We are doing a disservice to Leo, to the club… We are one step away from success in the post-Messi era that we were so afraid of. This is success."

 

[Messigician]

Tebas probably thought that Real Madrid would sign Mbappe or perhaps Haaland and give La Liga another young marketable superstar, but when Madrid signed no one- media partners and sponsors probably told Tebas to get some more star power and make their sponsorship deals worth it.

Xavi: "Messi? Let’s listen to fate if it's so wise… Let's see what happens, there's nothing yet. Let's see how willing he is. We are doing a disservice to Leo, to the club… We are one step away from success in the post-Messi era that we were so afraid of. This is success."

Lil bro waffling

 

[Horatio]

Xavi: "Messi? Let’s listen to fate if it's so wise… Let's see what happens, there's nothing yet. Let's see how willing he is. We are doing a disservice to Leo, to the club… We are one step away from success in the post-Messi era that we were so afraid of. This is success."

@&#^ yes. Xavi is not behind the idea. Made my day.

 

[Gari]

Q: Have you changed since your appointment as coach? Xavi: I've learned to tell players no and that I don't need them.
He studies. Responsibility is on him.