Nico Williams

[FCMessi]

Only the clause stopping Barca and NW right now.

As always.

 

[jamrock]

Arsenal had issues with zubi's clause as well, i read they've agreed to pay the clause but in installments, Barca in a perfect world would like the same for Nico, but athletic aren't the type of club to do that.

 

[FCMessi]

Psg played without pure 9 and it works. Time to try it.

PSG does it because they have not much choice.

They have too many elite wingers.

 

[SeloBarca]

Wonder if he can even agree to a lower wage than previously demanded

 

[draconifire]

We really need an LB backup, for real. And even if its a difficult operation I would try to sell Ara and even Christiansen - and than get a solid CB (have no idea who though). Sure, if Yamal and Raphinha are healthy and in form we'd be good on wingers to win a CL - but we sure as hell ain't winning shit with Ara.

3 names - Bastoni, Schlotterbeck, Van de Ven
We desperately need a world-class LCB. We have one in Cuba, with elite passing and box defending. But what we lack is height and speed. And those 3 gives us that, without being retarded like Araujo. I would ship Araujo and get these. Christenses/Kounde/Eric as RCB backup. Inigo as LCB backup.

 

[Givenchy]

Barcelona's favourite option remains Luis Díaz.
@carrusel

 

[Total-Football]

Barcelona's favourite option remains Luis Díaz.
@carrusel

Dont care if its diaz or nico as long as its not trashford

 

[khaled_a_d]

It is still about cost, even at 12M he is much more costly than what the club expects Diaz to cost.

 

[BJJ]

Heard reports that the club don't want a club de amigos again. They don't want the cronyism of the past and want a professional atmosphere. Makes sense to me.

 

[Porque]

It is still about cost, even at 12M he is much more costly than what the club expects Diaz to cost.

How much do you think we would pay Diaz?

Nico Williams
60m + 12m wage over 6 years = 22m / season.

Diaz
70m (guess) + 10m(guess) wage over 6 years = 22m / season.

I think both would end up amortizing the same. With the difference of Nico having upside and re-sale value. The other point being would the club even offer Diaz a 6 year contract? It is more likely to be a 4 year or a 4 + 1.

So going back.

70m + 10m wage over 4 years = 27.5m season.

Regarding Diaz. Wages would hardly be cheap. Infact Liverpool have put themselves into a bit of a dilemma as guys like Diaz are vastly underearning due to the old wage structure. While Salah and Van Dijk renewed under the new wage structure and now earn over 12m / season. And Wirtz was signed and being paid 12m a season.

So a guy like Diaz will be looking for that bracket of pay. Either at Liverpool renewing or elsewhere.

Basically, he is not likely to be any cheaper than Nico and may be more expensive due to age and a shorter contract length. So it should just come down to being a sporting decision of who is better for us- Nico or Diaz.

 

[jamrock]

Agreed, especially the bit about length of contracts which will bring the Diaz and Nico deal closer, we will definitely sign Nico to a 5/6 year deal.

Diaz 3/4.

And if we take into consideration resale value, Nico is the better deal.

But Diaz might be the better tactical fit, if we are only looking at that.

 

[Porque]

Agreed, especially the bit about length of contracts which will bring the Diaz and Nico deal closer, we will definitely sign Nico to a 5/6 year deal.

Diaz 3/4.

And if we take into consideration resale value, Nico is the better deal.

But Diaz might be the better tactical fit, if we are only looking at that.

Agreed. Nico is as good a tactical fit as Dembele. The only question is if Flick can get inside Nico brain like LE with Dembele and make him a proper player.

You can see he is kind of there with Spain, but all a bit still unnatural.

 

[Horatio]

Dembele is more gifted dribbling than nico.

Nico can get at his level of crossing tho.
Can get close to his shooting as well.

 

[FCBarca]

Barcelona's favourite option remains Luis Díaz.
@carrusel

Fake news

 

[khaled_a_d]

How much do you think we would pay Diaz?

Nico Williams
60m + 12m wage over 6 years = 22m / season.

Diaz
70m (guess) + 10m(guess) wage over 6 years = 22m / season.

There are few problems in this calculations.

1-Romero is saying Nico RC package is 64M, not 60.

2-Niether Nico nor Diaz are signing 6 years, but look at next point.

3-I doubt Nico is going to have a flat rate salary. 12M is likely the starting salary. At 4th and 5th year, expect significant pay raise. This is normal for a young player, they know clubs expects them to improve, and they want to be paid as such. So, a 6th year sound good for amortization only in the short run. This is happening with Garcia too, it is reported he will see significant improvement in wages in his 6th season, that is why he accepted 6th year.

So, it is another "borrowing " from the future case.

4-Barca expects Diaz to cost same as Olmo, who was 47M+ 13M, this means his amortization will be significantly lower. Diaz at 10M get significant improvement in wage, and likely has flat value or lower increase.

5-Barca media is claiming Diaz want us, and honestly, our only competition is in KSA, which he isn't interested at.

6-Installments vs buyout.

7-Value for money doesn't matter if you can't afford it.

We can try to rationalise the Niconomics as much as we want. But we know as a player the club would have taken him immediately if everything is equal. The club isn't stupid, despite armchair SD loving to claim that, and if anything Nico is the easy and popular choice.

Going after other targets, it is clearly the club see it as tough economic deal and expect Diaz to be more cost friendly, significantly.

However, this ignores Liverpool. Diaz is a good starting LW on low cost. They sell him for 60M or under, and they are likely paying more to get an equally or better player, just after breaking EPL transfer record and signing a costly LB & RB. They can say stay or leave for 80M+ from Saudi, a number that can fubd them a legit replacement