Hans-Dieter Flick

[serghei]

With Xavi we got dumped by PSG in the quarters the year before and one could argue we would have made it to the semis if Araujo wouldn't have been sent off.
We got an easier draw last year. If we were on the other side of the draw we get Liverpool/PSG, it's probably an early exit and talks of not being contenders.

I get it why people felt different last season, with the results and roller-coaster football we were playing. But Barca has always been there or thereabouts . Bar the two years of being eliminated from the group stages of course.

Team started to improve in CL since 2022. Despite that, we are not there yet vs the top sides. Doesn't matter if it's Flick, or Xavi. The difference is mostly stylistical.

Squad cost us every time.

 

[serghei]

Flick had better wins, but that's understandable tbh as the players become more mature and experienced.

Still a gap vs bigger clubs that we need to find ways to reduce.

But of the two, despite results and shortcoming vs big teams being similar, Flick is playing better football that will benefit more the club going forward. Even if he will fail vs big teams just the same.

Xavi's best results came by being pragmatic. This was his way of elevating the team. He fixed the defense by going pragmatic, as a way to win soms titles. At clubs like Barcelona this was not a very pleasing sight.

Flick had some of the same issues to tackle, and he did it with high intensity press and a more energetic, offensive style. This is simply a better way to reach similar results at a club like Barcelona.

Xavi knew this and wanted to transition to a more offensive style, with short term fixes like old Gundogan, and technical rejects like Felix and Cancelo. All three attacking minded players.The football was more entertaining, but the defense was not nearly as good.

No matter how you go around it, the issue is being manager of Barca atm is a struggle. You know the moves that need be made, but to make them finances need to improve by a lot.

 

[KingLeo10]

Letting go of Clownbele was a big mistake.

This team would absolutely overwhelm opponents with a fluid front 3 of Raphinha, Ousmane, and Lamine.

 

[jamrock]

Fuckbele wanted out, after finally starting to look decent for us, he's a rat bastard.

 

[Temptation]

Letting go of Clownbele was a big mistake.

This team would absolutely overwhelm opponents with a fluid front 3 of Raphinha, Ousmane, and Lamine.

That's huge coming from you. You were his biggest critic.

He won you over with the recent Messi quotes, didn't he?

 

[KingLeo10]

That's huge coming from you. You were his biggest critic.

He won you over with the recent Messi quotes, didn't he?

Calma, been saying this since last April-May

 

[Birdy]

Can't believe the fuck I am reading here.
Revisionism at its best!

'Xavi or Flick does not make any difference'
You can't be so stupid really

Xavi was a tactically inept dude who never understood the transition from tactical ideas to actual tactics.
He created rigid systems of play that would see us being unable to break down even the lowest fodder LL teams
I am not even talking about being schooled by all kinds of managers in Europe

Flick is arguably top5 coach in the world, not only because of the entertaining football but because he is also effective. He swept all domestic titles last season and reached CL semis with a squad that was nowhere close that under any other manager

Of course there are other great teams, and last season one could say PSG, Pool, maybe Arsenal were better than us, and I accept that. But being the 4th best team in Europe with such squad difference from the others is a huge achievement

PS: Stop blaming Flick you revisionist morons and look at the real cause of the last results. Cubarsi himself told everyone "we are not pressing, we have become complacent"
Wake up

 

[jamrock]

Can't believe the fuck I am reading here.
Revisionism at its best!

'Xavi or Flick does not make any difference'
You can't be so stupid really

Xavi was a tactically inept dude who never understood the transition from tactical ideas to actual tactics.
He created rigid systems of play that would see us being unable to break down even the lowest fodder LL teams
I am not even talking about being schooled by all kinds of managers in Europe

Flick is arguably top5 coach in the world, not only because of the entertaining football but because he is also effective. He swept all domestic titles last season and reached CL semis with a squad that was nowhere close that under any other manager

Of course there are other great teams, and last season one could say PSG, Pool, maybe Arsenal were better than us, and I accept that. But being the 4th best team in Europe with such squad difference from the others is a huge achievement

PS: Stop blaming Flick you revisionist morons and look at the real cause of the last results. Cubarsi himself told everyone "we are not pressing, we have become complacent"
Wake up

It was too easy for me not to.

 

[Maradona37]

Kroos' take on Flickball:

🚨🗣️ Toni Kroos: "Barcelona have one of the most attractive styles, if not the most attractive in all of Europe, but I think they take too many risks."

"On a bad day for Pedri or Lamine or Raphinha, any team can hurt them and beat them, you can knock them out of the Champions League. That happened last season against Inter, and this season, they will come up against a team of that type that knocks them out."

"Starting from the seventy-fifth minute you notice that everyone is more fatigued, and you see them not changing their style to close the spaces. If you're tired and don't change your way of playing, it becomes very obvious how exposed you are."

Thoughts?

That's partly what I was saying about distances being too big, though it seemed true earlier in the games too. But in some games that I saw it did become worse as they fatigued.

It's not really Flick's fault per se - it's just the way he plays. Not really a defect in him as a coach, he just keeps to his principles.

But that was especially true against Inter. Barca could have closed up after they went ahead in the tie. But maybe they didn't feel they could defend the lead? Barca have never been a 'close a game down' type of team, and Flick doesn't play like that, and I guess they would say why should they when they're so good at attacking in general? But it has cost them on a few occasions and none more so than that Inter game.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Kroos' take on Flickball:

🚨🗣️ Toni Kroos: "Barcelona have one of the most attractive styles, if not the most attractive in all of Europe, but I think they take too many risks."

"On a bad day for Pedri or Lamine or Raphinha, any team can hurt them and beat them, you can knock them out of the Champions League. That happened last season against Inter, and this season, they will come up against a team of that type that knocks them out."

"Starting from the seventy-fifth minute you notice that everyone is more fatigued, and you see them not changing their style to close the spaces. If you're tired and don't change your way of playing, it becomes very obvious how exposed you are."

Thoughts?

That Madridista needs to keep my beautiful club's name out of his Goddamn mouth.