Hans-Dieter Flick
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Ooooh, god forbid. I dont want to see a lazy-ass Pique in the Barca lineup.
FinBarcelonafan
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Last season before every nt break: '2 weeks no Hansi football guys'
This season: ...
Good point. This time international break came to rescue us.
FinBarcelonafan
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Great point and he definitely deserves it. We need to give him a chance to shine.
Maradona37
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He did well with what I consider a lesser squad than some others in Europe last season. He had them playing well. He also barely got any new players in this summer, which must be factored into account.
However, I do not believe he will be there long-term, as he just does not seem to be someone who will stay at one place for many years and build a legacy. I also believe he's been dodgy tactically in recent games I have watched. Just distances between players and the set up not looking right. PSG had far far too much space in between the lines. I even thought there were warning signs against Newcastle.
The two losses were tough, but I did see the Sevilla one coming (was one of only 1 percent on Superbru to correctly predict a Sevilla win, have the proof if anyone doubts it) and he needs to sort them out very quickly. I want Barca to win trophies this season but Real Madrid are looking strong (Atletico game apart) and PSG still seem to be the team to beat in Europe.
I think it's gonna be hard, and might go tits up, I have to be honest. But I am a bit of a pessimist.
However, I do not believe he will be there long-term, as he just does not seem to be someone who will stay at one place for many years and build a legacy. I also believe he's been dodgy tactically in recent games I have watched. Just distances between players and the set up not looking right. PSG had far far too much space in between the lines. I even thought there were warning signs against Newcastle.
The two losses were tough, but I did see the Sevilla one coming (was one of only 1 percent on Superbru to correctly predict a Sevilla win, have the proof if anyone doubts it) and he needs to sort them out very quickly. I want Barca to win trophies this season but Real Madrid are looking strong (Atletico game apart) and PSG still seem to be the team to beat in Europe.
I think it's gonna be hard, and might go tits up, I have to be honest. But I am a bit of a pessimist.
Gaudi
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Don't get me wrong, Flick raised this team to CL contenders., this is huge improvement. That is why I am a bit angry, as I see us there or close but missing. With coaches before i didn't even see a chance so I was calm.
Any yes, RM would also be my example of team that somehow finds a way to win, that is why they almost have easier time wining CL than La liga, you can't "fake" it for 30+ rounds but for tournament it is perfect. I don't want us to change 180 degrees but just add some pragmatism now and then.
malvolio
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With Xavi we got dumped by PSG in the quarters the year before and one could argue we would have made it to the semis if Araujo wouldn't have been sent off.
We got an easier draw last year. If we were on the other side of the draw we get Liverpool/PSG, it's probably an early exit and talks of not being contenders.
I get it why people felt different last season, with the results and roller-coaster football we were playing. But Barca has always been there or thereabouts . Bar the two years of being eliminated from the group stages of course.
Temptation
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Kroos' take on Flickball:
🚨🗣️ Toni Kroos: "Barcelona have one of the most attractive styles, if not the most attractive in all of Europe, but I think they take too many risks."
"On a bad day for Pedri or Lamine or Raphinha, any team can hurt them and beat them, you can knock them out of the Champions League. That happened last season against Inter, and this season, they will come up against a team of that type that knocks them out."
"Starting from the seventy-fifth minute you notice that everyone is more fatigued, and you see them not changing their style to close the spaces. If you're tired and don't change your way of playing, it becomes very obvious how exposed you are."
Thoughts?
🚨🗣️ Toni Kroos: "Barcelona have one of the most attractive styles, if not the most attractive in all of Europe, but I think they take too many risks."
"On a bad day for Pedri or Lamine or Raphinha, any team can hurt them and beat them, you can knock them out of the Champions League. That happened last season against Inter, and this season, they will come up against a team of that type that knocks them out."
"Starting from the seventy-fifth minute you notice that everyone is more fatigued, and you see them not changing their style to close the spaces. If you're tired and don't change your way of playing, it becomes very obvious how exposed you are."
Thoughts?
Raketa10
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The moment he adapts that high line and stops risking after 80-th minute we'll become a stronger team. If we want to win trophies than sometimes we'll need to drop back and wait especially in the CL. Taking unnecessary risk costed us last season against Inter and this season already against PSG. Against Inter we had a 3-2 lead in 87th minute and we chased the forth goal. Furthermore, against PSG few minutes before the final whistle a draw was more than OK especially considering how they outplayed us in the second half. That's not a beautiful way of playing but rather a plain stupidity.
Has Hansi deserved a credit? Absolutely! Should he continue even if we don't win anything this season? He definitely should! However, unnecessary risk taking isn't something he should be applauded for.
Has Hansi deserved a credit? Absolutely! Should he continue even if we don't win anything this season? He definitely should! However, unnecessary risk taking isn't something he should be applauded for.
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Raketa10
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Everyone except Flick
TheStig
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He did a very good job in his first season but some of you guys are writting like he's some God and we are some small club that has to be so thankful someone like that came to us. Far from it, Flick is a good manager but has many flaws and those are getting bigger with each game. He lifted us up but his style isn't suitable for long term, at least not at Barca and with this generation who doesn't seem as hungry as the previous golden era team. Looks like they think they are some hot shots who don't have to run anymore because they won 1 (or 2) La Liga. The amigos did that after 3 CLs and 5 LLs.
He won't adapt, he proved and said it and it will cost him his job one day. There is no point in talking how much better we would be if we adapted if our coach won't adapt, that's part of Flick.
If we lose all the titles because of his obsession with playing high line every second of every game and Lucho becomes avaliable I know what I would do.
He won't adapt, he proved and said it and it will cost him his job one day. There is no point in talking how much better we would be if we adapted if our coach won't adapt, that's part of Flick.
If we lose all the titles because of his obsession with playing high line every second of every game and Lucho becomes avaliable I know what I would do.
jamrock
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His time at Barca will determine whether he's a klopp or a bielsa.
Bielsa would have won at least 1 league title if you gave him the opportunity to manage a talented team like Barca, but his football wouldn't be sustainable over 2+ seasons.
The best managers stay true to their core philosophy but adapt on the edges
Bielsa would have won at least 1 league title if you gave him the opportunity to manage a talented team like Barca, but his football wouldn't be sustainable over 2+ seasons.
The best managers stay true to their core philosophy but adapt on the edges
Surely his analysts and assistants must be providing feedback.
It looks like the team has lost its hunger and unfortunately believes in its hype.
This season we've been a step slower and it shows.
If we go trophyless this season Flick will be gone. Than its onto another manager who will make different demands and want different players.
We need a proper stable long term project. At the moment it's very hit and miss. I'm a Flick fan but he needs to adapt. This team could play well on the counter but imo Flick doesn't trust the defence, especially the cbs.
It looks like the team has lost its hunger and unfortunately believes in its hype.
This season we've been a step slower and it shows.
If we go trophyless this season Flick will be gone. Than its onto another manager who will make different demands and want different players.
We need a proper stable long term project. At the moment it's very hit and miss. I'm a Flick fan but he needs to adapt. This team could play well on the counter but imo Flick doesn't trust the defence, especially the cbs.
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