Hans-Dieter Flick

[Birdy]

Frankfurt was in 2021-22, before key transfers were made. Try again. It's easy with you. The squad got seriously improved in the summer of 2022. After Xavi's first 5-6 months. Everyone should know this.

What a stupid argument to say he was carried by X or Y. This is children level like. Carried by defense means you set up a good defense. That's like saying Flick got carried by the attackers last season. Complete nonsense.

Frankfurt was actually the only period (Feb-Apr '22) in Xavi's stint that the team played decent football.
Which makes the elimination even worse

Yes, he was absolutely carried, because we did not deserve around 70% of those 1-0s that season, based on chances. Opponents created more big chances than us, but we were getting bailed every other game by Stegen and the BACK-line. I had proved that in the past to all doubters with stat analysis of all the results in the league that season.

Setting up a good defense means the opposite: means not conceding big chances.
Of course you fail to get it, because you barely understand football

Nonsense is actually what's coming out of your mouth.
Others are trying to tell you, but you are unable to even read the room...

 

[serghei]

Frankfurt was actually the only period (Feb-Apr '22) in Xavi's stint that the team played decent football.
Which makes the elimination even worse

Yes, he was absolutely carried, because we did not deserve around 70% of those 1-0s that season, based on chances. Opponents created more big chances than us, but we were getting bailed every other game by Stegen and the BACK-line. I had proved that in the past to all doubters with stat analysis of all the results in the league that season.

Setting up a good defense means the opposite: means not conceding big chances.
Of course you fail to get it, because you barely understand football

Nonsense is actually what's coming out of your mouth.
Others are trying to tell you, but you are unable to even read the room...

You're completely fabricating things as usual. In the season we won the league we had most expected points, most expected goals, and least expected goals against. That means we should have finished with most points (we did), we should have scored the most goals (we didn't, underperformed our xG by 13 goals -> should have scored 13 more goals than we did), we should have made the post points (we did).

You've created this parallel reality in your head.

We've dominated every key metric at team level, except goals scored.

Not liking Xavi's style is totally fine, most didn't appreciate it. Making things up is not.

 

[jamrock]

You are two guys that refuse to take a simple L of your shitty takes, and drag and tire the whole thread with strawmans and false narratives

- 'Took us in the 9th'
another common propagandist lie. Positions are not determined in October, and Koeman left us 3rd in the league (20/21) and Copa del Rey winners. That's where Xavi took over

- 'a red card away from cL SF'
No we weren't. PSG were thumping us in that game even 11 vs 11, it was pretty sure we would be out in any case, for anyone having impartial eyes

- 'rejuvenated the squad'
with 200m lever-money ill spent

GEt a grip...

PS: But you are right in at least something: let's compare Xavi and Flick after 2.5 years.
And with Flick getting 200m transfers of his liking next summer.
Yes, if that happens, we can make the comparion.
but it is already in favor of Flick without the 200m in transfers

But Isak is.

 

[Birdy]

You're completely fabricating things as usual. In the season we won the league we had most expected points, most expected goals, and least expected goals against. That means we should have finished with most points (we did), we should have scored the most goals (we didn't, underperformed our xG by 13 goals -> should have scored 13 more goals than we did), we should have made the post points (we did).

You've created this parallel reality in your head.

We've dominated every key metric at team level, except goals scored.

That's actually you, who don't know how to read Xstats and fabricate narratives that we dominated all metrics

We won that league because of the (around 15 or so) 1-0s against fodder LL teams that season.
Eye-test is enough to tell you that Stegen and defense bailed Xavi
But if you don't want eye-test, stats tell you the same. If you sit down and analyze the stats of those games (I had done in the past and had extensive threads about it), you will see that we didn't deserve more than 15 points from those games, where opponents had better chances than us

Xavi was simply lucky AF to win that league title

 

[Birdy]

But Isak is.

Isak is, no matter what you say.
Raphina isn't (yet), nor he was when he was at Leeds

 

[Birdy]

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That's you actually with 'IS' instead of 'ISN't'

 

[serghei]

That's actually you, who don't know how to read Xstats and fabricate narratives that we dominated all metrics

We won that league because of the (around 15 or so) 1-0s against fodder LL teams that season.
Eye-test is enough to tell you that Stegen and defense bailed Xavi
But if you don't want eye-test, stats tell you the same. If you sit down and analyze the stats of those games (I had done in the past and had extensive threads about it), you will see that we didn't deserve more than 15 points from those games, where opponents had better chances than us

Xavi was simply lucky AF to win that league title

Ah, your eye test. That told me Klopp Liverpool would have beaten Pep Barca? Or what was it lately? Aston Villa would have beaten mid 00s Milan? That eye test?

That told me Ange is a great manager?

Why don't you direct me to some of your hidden sources that shows me our expected goals against would be anything else except the best in the league in 2022-2023. Or expected points. Even in your own backyard with your own x-stats you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[jamrock]

Or that inter will have a chance against PSG.

That was the eye & Xg test, worked out well lol

 

[serghei]

Just keep it real. Flick did upgrade the entertainment value of the team by playing attacking football, but the problems that hurt us under the previous manager vs higher quality opponents keep hurting us. Short squad, subpar back-up players, players with low experience at the top predisposed to brainfarts under pressure, players who maybe don't have the athletic ability to do both phases (on and off the ball) as well. The whole lot. No shame in denying what has been proven several times.

 

[Birdy]

Ah, your eye test. That told me Klopp Liverpool would have beaten Pep Barca? Or what was it lately? Aston Villa would have beaten mid 00s Milan? That eye test?

That told me Ange is a great manager?

Why don't you direct me to some of your hidden sources that shows me our expected goals against would be anything else except the best in the league in 2022-2023. Or expected points. Even in your own backyard with your own x-stats you don't have a leg to stand on.

It's funny you are so ignorant of football that you think Xavi is better manager than Ange.

Imagine Xavi at Celtic and Spurs. That would have been hilarious

 

[Birdy]

Or that inter will have a chance against PSG.

Almost all serious analysts before the final said it's 50%-50%, one of the most hard to predict finals ever, etc.
Same with betting companies and the odds they gave

But you knew better than them

 

[serghei]

It's funny you are so ignorant of football that you think Xavi is better manager than Ange.

Imagine Xavi at Celtic and Spurs. That would have been hilarious

Ange is a great manager and Simeone and Ancelotti are bums.

You are so ignorant at football, you think going to attack and being swiss cheese at the back as a result is some kind of reward in itself. Wow, great feat, it's just great seeing every decent team have fun with your defense. It doesn't even matter you finish near relegation zone.

Football is both phases mate.

 

[Birdy]

Ange is a great manager and Simeone and Ancelotti are bums.

You are so ignorant at football, you think going to attack and being swiss cheese at the back as a result is some kind of reward in itself. Wow, great feat, it's just great seeing every decent team have fun with your defense. It doesn't even matter you finish near relegation zone.

Football is both phases mate.

Simeone has been great, even though unlikeable, until circa 2016. Since then, he has turned into a big fraud.
Highest paid coach in the world that constantly underachieves in both league and Europe

Fraudcelotti once was a great coach (when he was at Milan) with ideas about football. After that he gradually become a personality balancer manager that gives his team 0 tactical identity in general and in specific games.
Madrid players themselves said so after their Arsenal elimination last season.

The fact that he won 2 CLs with Madrid is pretty much irrelevant, since he would have been totally unable to do it with any other top club and others with not better tactical nous, like Zidane, have also done the same with Madrid. It's the club and not the manager.
Look at his stints at Bayern Napoli and Everton to get an idea where he stands in club football

I am gonna tell you one more time something until you hammer it inside your narrow-minded head:
it's much more difficult to do what Ange did at Celtic and at Spurs than what Ancelotti did with Madrid the last 3 years.

I am gonna also give you another secret insight that might be useful to you from now on: I know that you, and all the others that express similar views, are real losers in real life that want to compensate that with the 'big titles' your team wins in football. You underestimate and undervalue the success of small clubs, because being small reminds you of your petty little life, where of course you are never going to achieve something 'big'.

Unfortunately for you and the rest, football industry (with the exception of obsolette decision makers) does not work like that and values very much the small club success

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Barcelona boss Hansi Flick is reportedly considering making a tactical change to his team after overseeing defeats to Paris Saint-Germain and Sevilla.

A new report from Mundo Deportivo claims that Flick is thinking about moving Marcus Rashford to the No. 9 position in a bid to improve his team’s pressing from the front.

Flick and his coaching staff think that some of their current issues stem from a lack of “pressing well and intensity from the front line” - something Pau Cubarsi stated after the defeat to Sevilla.

The Barcelona boss wants to continue with the system he’s used so far, and is confident given their success last season, but knows some changes are needed to get the team back on track.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Looks like Hansi had seen enough from Lewy and Ferran and now wants to use Rashy as striker, with Raphi on left and Yamal on right and Fermin as attacking midfielder!