Copa 1/4 final: Albacete - Barca 1-2

malvolio

malvolio

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With regards to the match, it was another nail-biter against a small team. One might say that grinding wins is the mark of champions, but the same worrying signs are showing. Attack doesn't convert chances as well as it should, defence is a shambles and we concede against any team, many players are lacking the quality to play at a high level week after week for this club.
Thank God for Madrid being worse, I guess.
 
Loki

Loki

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malvolio said:
Again with the refs? We all know Cancelo should have been off and ref turned a blind eye on that.
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He played the ball first. You don't send a player off for that, especially in a knock-out game. Without the ball, it's a clear yellow. But not in a k.o. stage when the ball was involved. Refs judge according to the situation and the game as well. Same as not every foul in the penalty area is automatically a penalty.

That said, there are refs in spain who would have send him off and he was lucky.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018795410752704615
 
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malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
Loki said:
He played the ball first. You don't send a player off for that, especially in a knock-out game. Without the ball, it's a clear yellow. But not in a k.o. stage when the ball was involved. Refs judge according to the situation and the game as well. Same as not every foul in the penalty area is automatically a penalty.

That said, there are refs in spain who would have send him off and he was lucky.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018795410752704615
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That's a yellow all day, clumsy challenge. If he puts his foot higher it's a straight red. Touching ball first has nothing to do with it in this case.
 
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JamDav1982

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malvolio said:
With regards to the match, it was another nail-biter against a small team. One might say that grinding wins is the mark of champions, but the same worrying signs are showing. Attack doesn't convert chances as well as it should, defence is a shambles and we concede against any team, many players are lacking the quality to play at a high level week after week for this club.
Thank God for Madrid being worse, I guess.
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Claiming watched game now are we?

Calma.
 
Loki

Loki

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malvolio said:
Touching ball first has nothing to do with it in this case.
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No, it helped here massively. Watch the video above, he hit him in the same movement as clearing the ball before. As I explained, the referee doesn't make decisions in a vacuum. He evaluates the whole situation. And that's not some rarity, it happens literally in every game.

The whole situation tells, that booking a player in a fair knock-out stage game, when playing the ball, isn't red worthy. Same as fouls commited in penalty area that a booked in the midfield, are being tolerated. It's not about yellow, but about sending off a player. It doesn't matter what the rule book says, same as it doesn't say anything to tolerate fouls inside the penalty area.

There are even interviews with refs, who explain these "feeling" decisions. Football isn't black and white purely by the rule-book. It was stupid by cancelo to risk so much there and the ref could have send him off, if he was a piece of shit, because the rules would have allowed him to. But he made the correct decision here.
 
malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
Loki said:
No, it helped here massively. Watch the video above, he hit him in the same movement as clearing the ball before. As I explained, the referee doesn't make decisions in a vacuum. He evaluates the whole situation. And that's not some rarity, it happens literally in every game.

The whole situation tells, that booking a player in a fair knock-out stage game, when playing the ball, isn't red worthy. Same as fouls commited in penalty area that a booked in the midfield, are being tolerated. It's not about yellow, but about sending off a player. It doesn't matter what the rule book says, same as it doesn't say anything to tolerate fouls inside the penalty area.

There are even interviews with refs, who explain these "feeling" decisions. Football isn't black and white purely by the rule-book. It was stupid by cancelo to risk so much there and the ref could have send him off, if he was a piece of shit, because the rules would have allowed him to. But he made the correct decision here.
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No one is talking about black and white or how the ref woke up yesterday morning. He could very well have handed the yellow and no one would have argued it wasn't fair. It wasn't even about ref being bent against Barca or not.
 
serghei

serghei

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It wasn't even a foul. He got the ball and the contact is accidental. If he stepped on the foot and didn't play the ball, sure, but on the replay it looks like he kicked the ball and then simply landed on the guy's toes.
 
FCBarca

FCBarca

Truth
Another example of course of the atrocious refereeing in Spain with a clear agenda bias to handicap Barça. Lamine himself was repeatedly fouled without a booking, Bernabeu should’ve been sent off with a clear shirt grab to prevent a counter and this happened with late challenges and rewarding the minnows with just about anything. Rashford definitely had a shout for a penalty as did Olmo

Even Cancelo’s purported 2nd foul that some clamored for a 2nd yellow wasn’t even a foul as he had cleared the ball first, I honestly don’t even understand how yellows aren’t given out for clear shirt grabs to prevent an advantage - should be automatic

Lamine was imperious yet again and Marcus had a lot of bright moments, shame he squandered some great goalscoring chances but so did Olmo & Lewy. We definitely need to be more clinical but many great attacks & pressure being applied as a team
 
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