Copa 1/4 final: Albacete - Barca 1-2

malvolio

Senior Member
With regards to the match, it was another nail-biter against a small team. One might say that grinding wins is the mark of champions, but the same worrying signs are showing. Attack doesn't convert chances as well as it should, defence is a shambles and we concede against any team, many players are lacking the quality to play at a high level week after week for this club.
Thank God for Madrid being worse, I guess.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Again with the refs? We all know Cancelo should have been off and ref turned a blind eye on that.
He played the ball first. You don't send a player off for that, especially in a knock-out game. Without the ball, it's a clear yellow. But not in a k.o. stage when the ball was involved. Refs judge according to the situation and the game as well. Same as not every foul in the penalty area is automatically a penalty.

That said, there are refs in spain who would have send him off and he was lucky.

 
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malvolio

Senior Member
He played the ball first. You don't send a player off for that, especially in a knock-out game. Without the ball, it's a clear yellow. But not in a k.o. stage when the ball was involved. Refs judge according to the situation and the game as well. Same as not every foul in the penalty area is automatically a penalty.

That said, there are refs in spain who would have send him off and he was lucky.

That's a yellow all day, clumsy challenge. If he puts his foot higher it's a straight red. Touching ball first has nothing to do with it in this case.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
With regards to the match, it was another nail-biter against a small team. One might say that grinding wins is the mark of champions, but the same worrying signs are showing. Attack doesn't convert chances as well as it should, defence is a shambles and we concede against any team, many players are lacking the quality to play at a high level week after week for this club.
Thank God for Madrid being worse, I guess.

Claiming watched game now are we?

Calma.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Touching ball first has nothing to do with it in this case.
No, it helped here massively. Watch the video above, he hit him in the same movement as clearing the ball before. As I explained, the referee doesn't make decisions in a vacuum. He evaluates the whole situation. And that's not some rarity, it happens literally in every game.

The whole situation tells, that booking a player in a fair knock-out stage game, when playing the ball, isn't red worthy. Same as fouls commited in penalty area that a booked in the midfield, are being tolerated. It's not about yellow, but about sending off a player. It doesn't matter what the rule book says, same as it doesn't say anything to tolerate fouls inside the penalty area.

There are even interviews with refs, who explain these "feeling" decisions. Football isn't black and white purely by the rule-book. It was stupid by cancelo to risk so much there and the ref could have send him off, if he was a piece of shit, because the rules would have allowed him to. But he made the correct decision here.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
No, it helped here massively. Watch the video above, he hit him in the same movement as clearing the ball before. As I explained, the referee doesn't make decisions in a vacuum. He evaluates the whole situation. And that's not some rarity, it happens literally in every game.

The whole situation tells, that booking a player in a fair knock-out stage game, when playing the ball, isn't red worthy. Same as fouls commited in penalty area that a booked in the midfield, are being tolerated. It's not about yellow, but about sending off a player. It doesn't matter what the rule book says, same as it doesn't say anything to tolerate fouls inside the penalty area.

There are even interviews with refs, who explain these "feeling" decisions. Football isn't black and white purely by the rule-book. It was stupid by cancelo to risk so much there and the ref could have send him off, if he was a piece of shit, because the rules would have allowed him to. But he made the correct decision here.
No one is talking about black and white or how the ref woke up yesterday morning. He could very well have handed the yellow and no one would have argued it wasn't fair. It wasn't even about ref being bent against Barca or not.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Malovolio difdnt even watch the game.

Going through clips to find ways to moan about how lucky Barca were and how shit the players are.
 

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