CL game 5: Chelsea - Barca 3-0

[BrianHendrix87]

He did it on purpose stupid araujo psg, last year inter, now this. What happened? Florentino gives him a extra pay every year o hows that?

 

[JamDav1982]

Not even just Inter.

Araujo almost fucked up the QF v Dortmund.

Guirassy scored a hat trick and Araujo was utterly awful.

 

[jamrock]

No one knows how Gala have the resources to pay him. So I would temp them and him with an 80m+ offer and 20ish million per year gross for Osimhen.

Will he accept? Maybe, maybe not.

But we're in no position to go for projects and I am tired of strikers that are slow and cannot run in behind.

Yea I think maybe now he's in a much different place and is more likely to accept some kind of numbers, 16-20max.

But gala paid 75m for him and paying him crazy numbers for his salary, I don't see them accepting less than 100m to recoup as much money as possible.

 

[Haraldinho]

First goal is offside. Anyway they had like 3 clear situations before the one zero.

How can we teach time management to these players?

 

[JamDav1982]

Bit like Haaland it seems a bizarre move for Oshimen to get stuck at Galatasary.

Would be surprised if not a route out.

 

[DonAK]

Yea I think maybe now he's in a much different place and is more likely to accept some kind of numbers, 16-20max.

But gala paid 75m for him and paying him crazy numbers for his salary, I don't see them accepting less than 100m to recoup as much money as possible.

Maybe, but something is very fishy with their financials. Even their own fans are confused at how they are able to pull it off.
Won't be surprised if there is a bubble to be burst there where they'll have no choice but to sell him leaving some room for negotiation.

 

[DonAK]

Obviously all of this doesn't matter if we're unable to spend more than 30m yet again next summer.

If a club like Barca are not able to spend minimum 50-60m every single summer if needed then you need to do what Real Madrid are doing and sell a part of the club.

 

[JamDav1982]

Obviously all of this doesn't matter if we're unable to spend more than 30m yet again next summer.

If a club like Barca are not able to spend minimum 50-60m every single summer if needed then you need to do what Real Madrid are doing and sell a part of the club.

Would think there is next to no chance Laporta ever does that.

He plays on emotions of socios to win and he also knows anyone investing that is not allowing Barca to be run the way he does it,

They will want more qualified professionals in place and decisions not made by a singular figure surrounded by those who accept it.

It is inevitable as has been said for years but dont think it will be Laporta although if Real improve through it.. becomes easier sell.

 

[DonAK]

Would think there is next to no chance Laporta ever does that.

He plays on emotions of socios to win and he also knows anyone investing that is not allowing Barca to be run the way he does it,

They will want more qualified professionals in place and decisions not made by a singular figure surrounded by those who accept it.

It is inevitable as has been said for years but dont think it will be Laporta although if Real improve through it.. becomes easier sell.

I don't think there's anyone at Barca currently or running for President that have the balls to make that pitch to the socis, unless they keep falling behind and can sell it if RM succeed as you said.

 

[Devils]

Demb had shit coaches while he was here that's the difference. Ironically he needed a Barcaball coach to do well.

Exactly.

Also he significantly improved his fitness and injury record once he moved to PSG.

So yeah, reached his full potential, became fitter and less injury prone right after moving to PSG. Speaks to PSG's management of him vs Barca's.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Who's fault is that though?

Dembele showed significant improvement under Xavi and was finally starting to find his feet, ironically this is the point we sold him.

We did all the work in bringing him back, Xavi was getting the best out of him, and then we decided to sell for pennies.

I agree with you that Lewa's signing was not really a catastrophe, he did contribute majorly to 2 LaLiga wins, the issue is the length of the contract, it should have been 2 years at best and then we decide if we want to renew.

Xavi used him as a guy who hugs the line and cross the ball inside. He didn't trust Auba to continue to be that guy on the receiving end and he requested Lewa, among other reasons.

There was no way anyone expected him to be a CF, the closest one was Koeman who used him as SS and he was very inconsistent.

The relationship with his agent was strained, and Dembele was always looked as the guy who cost us 145M without living to it. He inserted the buyout clause and activated it a year after Lewa arrived. We allowed it and promoted Lamine and it worked well for everyone involved.

Lewa length of contract was done well, he gave us 3 years as one of La liga top 3 scorers (1st, 3rd and 2nd respectively) and even this season he is 2nd top scorer so far. He was a sure goal machine and it was really needed. Even this season was a team option and we exercised it. We would have renewed him if he was on 2 years contract

 

[khaled_a_d]

Exactly.

Also he significantly improved his fitness and injury record once he moved to PSG.

Dembele has missed around 26 games for club and NT due to injuries in the past 28 months since the move.

He benefits significantly from a less competitive league, where they can afford to rest players.

Last year he played less than 3500 minutes for his club, including the CWC (3300 without that tournament).

Lewa has played 3900 minutes last year, Lamine 4550 minutes, Raphinha 4660 minutes. Those are massive differences. He literally played 90 minutes in 5 league games last year.

Barca has bad track with injuries, but Dembele was always an injury prone player and remains as one. He is just offered the golden chance to be football's Kawhi Leonard

 

[JamDav1982]

Those 3500 minutes better than Lewas 3900.

That is no argument for Lewa over Dembele.

Convenient to leave out the players he played more than also.

La Liga is not some vastly tougher league than Ligue 1 where players couldnt be rested more either.

Barca win a lot of games early and at half pace compared to what teams in likes of EPL can do.

 

[RedxMAK]

The outrage that the club has gotten from the past game is insane. Many fans have spoken as if the club has died yesterday, it was a horrid day but it happens. Look I know yesterday’s game was horrendous but at the end of the day, we should move on and not disregard or dismiss any of the achievements we have done under Flick so far. I hope everyone knows here that genuinely without that red card, we could’ve had a great chance to come back and that in the first half, we were getting into our rhythm while Chelsea only managed to create chances from set pieces this is not the type of rape you guys are describing this game as. The fact that we only conceded 2 goals with 10 men in Stamford Bridge should be looked at in a positive light as we have been in that position before and we ate 4 goals against PSG, that’s an improvement even if it is a slight one. Bad day but not the end of the world, we move on and Visca el Barça i Visca Catalunya.

 

[Haraldinho]

We move until next humiliation. We are used to it know. Some claps to the fans and let's move on to the next match.

Or blame the lack of operational players (everybody has injured player).

When we are complete, blame the physical condition or the tactics.

We always have something misaligned.

This club needs perfect planet alignment to operate properly.