CL : Barca - Olympiakos 6-1

Who wins?

  • Barca

    Votes: 6 60.0%

  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Olympiakos

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • Total voters
    10
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
MonteCuler said:
Flick is a transitional solution. You're right in that a great deal of our players are overrated. And what are we supposed to do? Get a Barça philosophy coach and ask him to build a complete possesion based superteam with those players?

It's an option, but one that would fail. And we would have to wait maybe a decade or more to finally become the absolute top again, to get the world class players and become "true Barça" again

Flick uses different philosophy. Ruthless, efficient football with many variables, a lot of things that are not calculable, pure chaos football that you have no idea what it will bring. But it can work with players of much lower quality. He makes everything incredibly easy for the attackers. High risk high reward

Laporta opted to take the risk. He wanted to hire Flick even earlier. And it has brought him success. If you compare 23/24 and 24/25 seasons, it clearly has. Not only have we won 3 trophies and gone deep in CL but our reputation has completely transformed. Barça was basically a joke since 2018/19 up until Flick arrived. Now it's again one of the very top sides

With our financial situation we should be absolutely shit and unserious. We have many positions we would have to reinforce but there is no money to do it. And Deco and Laporta pretend there is no need to do it because they have Flick and rely on him to do some magic with Lewandowski or Ferran or Martin or fuck knows who. When we have money to sign proper footballers we can dream of being prime Barça again. Until then we stick to Flickball and trust Flick
Click to expand...
Fair enough.
 
Givenchy

Givenchy

Senior Member
Last season we got by outscoring the opposition with a largely shit defense. This season, the frontline isn't firing bar Rashford and the backline is even worse than last season!

Araujo-Christensen NOW. I want to cut Cubarsi some slack as he's still very young esp in terms of CBs but it's starting to piss me off watching him. Eric can play RB for the stoned Kounde. Eric-Cubarsi CB duo is a huge clanger from Hansi, never again.
 
J

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Givenchy said:
Last season we got by outscoring the opposition with a largely shit defense. This season, the frontline isn't firing bar Rashford and the backline is even worse than last season!

Araujo-Christensen NOW. I want to cut Cubarsi some slack as he's still very young esp in terms of CBs but it's starting to piss me off watching him. Eric can play RB for the stoned Kounde. Eric-Cubarsi CB duo is a huge clanger from Hansi, never again.
Click to expand...

Most of the front line actually have decent goals/assists for minutes played.

Its just all very chaotic and feels like little control or by design.
 
Richard.H

Richard.H

Senior Member
Maradona37 said:
Yeah I agree, especially with that first line. His tactics are too volatile and too much of a lottery.

His tactics are also extremely athleticism dependent, more so than actual football ability, and I dislike that in a coach. As @Messi983 says, it is no surprise your players are dropping like flies. This guy expects them to be the fittest team on the planet. And when you look at most of these players, they aren't even the most athletic of footballers.
Click to expand...
To be fair, nearly all top teams are playing this way. They require far more athleticism than ever before. What he's doing isn't much different than the likes of PSG, Liverpool, Man City, Bayern. It's more so the way modern football is rather than a Flick tactic.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Richard.H said:
To be fair, nearly all top teams are playing this way. They require far more athleticism than ever before. What he's doing isn't much different than the likes of PSG, Liverpool, Man City, Bayern. It's more so the way modern football is rather than a Flick tactic.
Click to expand...
Which is why 'modern football' is mostly bollocks.

Fucking rudimentary who can run the fastest and longest, and who is the strongest, who can press the best, utter utter shite.

The sort of environment where a donkey like Mason Mount can thrive.

If I wanted to watch athletes I'd watch track and field all the time. I wanna watch footballers.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Richard.H said:
Mendes and Hakimi alone destroyed our team mostly due to their athleticism and physicality. It's just the way it is, hate it or love it. Adapt or die.
Click to expand...
Yeah, but they're actually good at football too.

There's too many donkeys with limited football ability making a career in the game because they're powerful athletes.

it's not athleticism that's the problem - it's athleticism as a compensation for no technical ability or football brain.

Hopefully I can stop watching soon.
 
B

BJJ

Well-known member
The fact is football has evolved. Some here for get that some of our best teams were beaten by much more physical teams. This idealism is misplaced. Us stringing together 300 passes with no end product is something I don't want to see anymore.
If anything we should give Flick the players he needs. A proper striker, dm, cb and fbs.
 
Barcaman

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Non Barca press writing about that second yellow and penalty. Both debatable, one more, other less.
Truth is, Greeks were back in the game and we didn't play good up until that point and team has no reason to be happy too much.
 
malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
Barcaman said:
Non Barca press writing about that second yellow and penalty. Both debatable, one more, other less.
Truth is, Greeks were back in the game and we didn't play good up until that point and team has no reason to be happy too much.
Click to expand...
Rightly so. Ref out there to blatantly rob Olympiacos.
They score a valid goal but he overturns it for them to take a pen. Then he gives a yellow for a dive and pen for Barca where GK is first to ball.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Home of Barca Fans

Top