Alexander Isak

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Laporta's promotional video to extend his presidency for another term.

 

[Birdy]

He was lucky with Rijkaard as well?

Rijkaard has always been a shitty coach, and his career proves that. Open up wikipedia and read.

Everyone who is not familiar with Barca, or was too young back then, thinks Rijkaard has anything to do with the good team between 2004-06.
Well, the tactician of that team was the assistant coach Henk Ten Cate, and when that guy left to coach Ajax in the summer of 06, the team went into free-fall for 2 years with Rijkaard alone at the helm.

Do your research before asking silly questions.

PS: Besides, as Porque above wrote, the 'decision' back then by Laporta was merely to hire a Dutch coach.
Must have been a very sophisticated one that he took together with the Sporting Director

 

[Birdy]

So apparently Laporta got lucky 6 times….
At this point bro it is not luck, perhaps he was fortunate in the Ronaldinho transfer but besides that all of his moves were carried out with full certainty under the guidance of Cruyff in the first part and his own conscience in the second part.

He got REALLY lucky with Pep, and the combination of the best coach in the history of the sport with the best generation of footballers coming up together. That was such a master-stroke of luck, and the filthy bastard still lives off of that stroke of luck.

Getting Ronaldinho instead of Becham who he wanted was also luck, because no2 in his list turned out to be 100 times than no1

With Flick, he kinda got lucky again, in that he landed out of accident (and not plan) on a top coach.

 

[Birdy]

1. What are these conclusions based on? Give me proof that a 26-year-old player who had experience of playing for clubs like Southampton and Celtic when he moved to Liverpool was like Mbappe among defenders? These are just your subjective conclusions, nothing more.

You talk about Kounde as if he didn't have much weight in the market. That's a lie. He is a player who was wanted by at least Arsenal and Chelsea, as well as us.
2. Well, give me examples of players, we will evaluate their contracts with Yamal's contract. Do you know many players who at 17-18 years old had the same level of influence on the game as Yamal? I can only remember Mbappe in the last 5-6 years.

3. Lucky with Pep, lucky with Flick. Maybe it's not about luck?
You're just pathetic if you see only luck in Laporta's successful decisions.
You need to see a psychiatrist, you have some kind of personal animosity towards Laporta.

4. How do you know that decisions are made without taking into account the opinion of analysts? Where the fuck did you get this from? Every statement you make is an empty sound that is not supported by anything.

1. Based on my memory, because I wasn't born yesterday.
There was a catfight about who gets VVD in 2017, similar to the one about Mbape the same summer, or Haaland a few years later.
When the whole of europe wants a player, it's something you simply can't help but notice.
Quality can be seen, and has nothing to do with where he plays. Haaland was playing at BvB, Mbape at Monaco.

I never denied Kounde was not wanted by more teams, we fought with Chelsea to get him.
But the point is simply not that VVD was wanted by more than one team.
The point is that he was the most important CB piece for the next decade any team could add,

nothing like Kounde who was merely a talented CB that could (potentially but not certainly) make the next step in a better team. He was never a STRATEGIC piece that top teams could not afford to lose

2. Yes, of course, you can only remember Mbape who was being paid by an oil club, because that example suits your agenda.

3. Yes, it is about luck, sorry. This is a non-argument, it's an appeal to some hypothetical cause that is not there.
Same with the one in favor of Madrid "they can't win so many CLs by luck".
Yet, you sit down and analyze each one independently and you see it was out of luck.

It's not animosity, it's criticism of his clown way of running MY CLUB

4. I know, because all of us know who pushed for each signing and how each one was signed.
Hansi brought Rashford, Deco wanted Diaz, Fatporta and Mendez wanted Leao.
Do the same for every transfer since the fat clown became presi in 2021 and you will see.
NOT EVEN 1 signing came from the analytics department

 

[jamrock]

1. Based on my memory, because I wasn't born yesterday.
There was a catfight about who gets VVD in 2017, similar to the one about Mbape the same summer, or Haaland a few years later.
When the whole of europe wants a player, it's something you simply can't help but notice.
Quality can be seen, and has nothing to do with where he plays. Haaland was playing at BvB, Mbape at Monaco.

I never denied Kounde was not wanted by more teams, we fought with Chelsea to get him.
But the point is simply not that VVD was wanted by more than one team.
The point is that he was the most important CB piece for the next decade any team could add,

nothing like Kounde who was merely a talented CB that could (potentially but not certainly) make the next step in a better team. He was never a STRATEGIC piece that top teams could not afford to lose

2. Yes, of course, you can only remember Mbape who was being paid by an oil club, because that example suits your agenda.

3. Yes, it is about luck, sorry. This is a non-argument, it's an appeal to some hypothetical cause that is not there.
Same with the one in favor of Madrid "they can't win so many CLs by luck".
Yet, you sit down and analyze each one independently and you see it was out of luck.

It's not animosity, it's criticism of his clown way of running MY CLUB

4. I know, because all of us know who pushed for each signing and how each one was signed.
Hansi brought Rashford, Deco wanted Diaz, Fatporta and Mendez wanted Leao.
Do the same for every transfer since the fat clown became presi in 2021 and you will see.
NOT EVEN 1 signing came from the analytics department

 

[M3ls]

1. Based on my memory, because I wasn't born yesterday.
There was a catfight about who gets VVD in 2017, similar to the one about Mbape the same summer, or Haaland a few years later.
When the whole of europe wants a player, it's something you simply can't help but notice.
Quality can be seen, and has nothing to do with where he plays. Haaland was playing at BvB, Mbape at Monaco.

I never denied Kounde was not wanted by more teams, we fought with Chelsea to get him.
But the point is simply not that VVD was wanted by more than one team.
The point is that he was the most important CB piece for the next decade any team could add,

nothing like Kounde who was merely a talented CB that could (potentially but not certainly) make the next step in a better team. He was never a STRATEGIC piece that top teams could not afford to lose

2. Yes, of course, you can only remember Mbape who was being paid by an oil club, because that example suits your agenda.

3. Yes, it is about luck, sorry. This is a non-argument, it's an appeal to some hypothetical cause that is not there.
Same with the one in favor of Madrid "they can't win so many CLs by luck".
Yet, you sit down and analyze each one independently and you see it was out of luck.

It's not animosity, it's criticism of his clown way of running MY CLUB

4. I know, because all of us know who pushed for each signing and how each one was signed.
Hansi brought Rashford, Deco wanted Diaz, Fatporta and Mendez wanted Leao.
Do the same for every transfer since the fat clown became presi in 2021 and you will see.
NOT EVEN 1 signing came from the analytics department

1.​

Again, again, again. I'm asking you once more — provide evidence — at least conclusions from reputable football analysts who, back in 2017, said that Van Dijk was the biggest talent among central defenders. I’m waiting.
You say — all of Europe was interested in him. My response — there was interest from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and City. Pep refused the transfer because of the price being over £60 million.
Koundé was also being monitored by Arsenal, Chelsea, Barcelona, and Man City. So your claims that "n" number of clubs were interested in Van Dijk do not prove that he was considered the most talented centre-back on the market.

2.​

You said that Yamal’s contract does not reflect the market. Prove this claim with numbers.
To do that, you must find players on the market who, at 17 years old, had the same level of impact per game as Yamal.
You're not satisfied with comparisons to Mbappé because he was already playing for PSG at the time. What other options do you have? You're making a claim — now back it up with data.

3.​

Do you even realize the nonsense you just wrote?
I believe that the fact that Laporta listens to figures like Cruyff, Rangnick, and others is a huge advantage. You’ll never convince me otherwise.
Laporta had the balls to put his trust in a 38-year-old Pep who had absolutely zero experience at the top level back in 2008 — and it paid off.
Laporta had the balls to go for Flick, who over the past 10 years had only two years of club-level experience and a not-so-successful stint with the national team — and again, it paid off.
Your talk about “luck” is a complete disgrace in the context of this discussion.

4.​

He may have his own preferences — but the most important thing is that in the end, the player that the coach wanted was the one who got signed.
I firmly believe that the final decision must remain with the coach, especially when that coach implements a system-based style of football.
Analysts gather the data, pass it to the sporting director, who then meets with the coach — and the coach should have the final say.

Once again — your claim that in Laporta's era, Barcelona ignores analysts’ input is nonsense.
Back up your statement with arguments — or are you just full of empty words?

 

[MonteCuler]

I dont see why is it important if it is luck or not

We care about results, not means by which those results are achieved

 

[DonAK]

If Laporta really is that lucky then we better keep him around for at least another term.

Which moron wouldn't want all that luck to follow them!

 

[Saladin]

He's not a good surgeon, just fucking lucky that every operation is a success, don't you get it?!!