22 - Marc Bernal

Porque

Senior Member
The way he plays is way less harsh on the joints than Gavi, so we can't apply apples to all.

Freak injury first time mind. Iirc was poor weather though.
 

Total-Football

Senior Member
Etoo came back after his acl vs Bremen in 2008 and exactly
False.. Gavi was not rushed at all.

Likes of Rodri played after 8 months and still barely been a year.

As have been told plenty of times.. 2 years is a fabricated timeline for players to be 'fully back' as seen with plenty of examples.
After 6 months came back banging goals and as fast as ever. In fact his post acl career is even more brilliant than pre-acl.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Etoo came back after his acl vs Bremen in 2008 and exactly
After 6 months came back banging goals and as fast as ever. In fact his post acl career is even more brilliant than pre-acl.

Wirtz was player of Year in Germany within 2 years.
Van Dijk was in EPL and UEFA team of year.
Roy Keane captained Man Utd to a treble and was PFA player of year.
Van Nistelrooy won EPL player of year.

There are many more examples.

Rodri came back after 8 months.. but 'Barca rush' Gavi and Bernal.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Gavi is possibly partly due to play and run style. His levers are all over the place and I can feel the strain his knees are put under when he turns.

Same way with Araujo heavy impact and his ankle.

Then you have Olmo who plays low set but unable to ride challenges (like Neymar for example) and always takes heavy impacts and gets injured.

Injuries waiting to happen these lads.
 

Total-Football

Senior Member
Wirst was player of Year in Germany within 2 years.
Van Dijk was in EPL and UEFA team of year.
Roy Keane captained Man Utd to a treble and was PFA player of year.
Van Nistelrooy won EPL player of year.

There are many more examples.

Rodri came back after 8 months.. but 'Barca rush' Gavi and Bernal.
Yeah tru.

Also the flip side of the coin hold true as well.. some players were completely done after ACL such as R9, Falcao , Alaba to name a few..
 

Total-Football

Senior Member
Gavi is possibly partly due to play and run style. His levers are all over the place and I can feel the strain his knees are put under when he turns.

Same way with Araujo heavy impact and his ankles.

Injuries waiting to happen these two lads.
I think it has nothing to do with specific playing parameters .. more of a combination of idiosyncratic factors and player-willingness .
 

Porque

Senior Member
I think it has nothing to do with specific playing parameters .. more of a combination of idiosyncratic factors and player-willingness .

Certain styles will be more prone to injury inducing impacts.

I'll give you an example but can't give names. I'm watching a very young youth prospect from a LaLiga academy weekly.

He is the best talent in the age group but every training session he is getting hurt. No serious injuries luckily though.

But this style its only a matter of time until he is. Dribbles way too hard, plants feet when turning past opponents and doesn't know how to ride a challenge.
 

Loki

Well-known member
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"It's the most special day and I would say the happiest of my life. I hope for many more years at the club," Bernal said, expressing gratitude for Barcelona’s unwavering support during his recovery. "I was at rock bottom and it was a huge help to feel that confidence. It was very special for me and meant a lot to me and my family, and I owe it all to the club of my life."

Reflecting on this period, Bernal said: "It's been a very tough year. The worst part is at the beginning, when you can't get out of bed for the first month. You appreciate things you didn't realise before, but together, they all made it easier for me. My teammates, coaches, family, my physiotherapist Borja... and even Hansi Flick came to visit me. I'm very grateful to him."

"Now it's not important to play, but to get into rhythm, everything in its own time; it's a process. The best Marc Bernal will be revealed when it's time," he said.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
I know it's difficult at this stage, because Frenkie and Pedri are fucking amazing right now - but this dude needs minutes... sure, the other evening was not the day, we chased a win and barely made it. But when we're 2ish goals up give him minutes - if he proves to be better than Casado we might need to look for a exit for Casado.
 

Saladin

Active member
The three full games I saw him last season before his injury were some of the greatest displays of the Barca way of controlling from the DM position in a long time.

He should be given all the minutes he can get - Especially to keep the likes of Frenkie and Pedri fresh for the last stretch of the season where, hopefully, the biggest trophies are still a possibility.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Folk are massively over blowing how good he was in those games.

He largely played the ball safe which was understandable.

Say that as being a fan of him for long enough but he was not nearly as good in those games as folk are now making out.

For his age tremendous but not to level being made out at all.
 

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