1 - Marc-Andre ter Stegen

[serghei]

Who has been demoted from Barca?
A first team player cannot be demoted to a B team contract (because of his age and appearances for first team), and without a B contract he cannot play for them.

I meant other clubs. I don't think there is a legal entity difference between a club's main team and its reserves side. When you sign your contract you sign it with a bussiness entity that pays taxes and everything, not the first team per se. That first team itself doesn't have a legal form in itself to sign contracts with players directly. The club has.

This rarely happens because usually it makes no sense to put a player you pay millions for in the reserves team. But in some cases, when situation gets dire, it was known to happen.

Wasn't based on this idea that the costs of Barcelona also includes basketball, and other sections as well. It's probably the same bussiness entity that signs players for all sections.

 

[delancey]

Who has been demoted from Barca?
A first team player cannot be demoted to a B team contract (because of his age and appearances for first team), and without a B contract he cannot play for them.

IIRC there is some regulation that a player has the right to compete for his spot in same conditions as other players, so for example you cannot let him train alone on the side of the pitch for a prolonged period as a punishment. In terms of improving fitness etc is a different case.

And I think there's a difference in Spain and England because the B team plays in a different pyramid in England, whereas it's in the same in Spain. So it's easier to drop down to English reserve sides to regain fitness.

Fair enough! We will still be able to demote him to the stands. Our biggest mistake is twofold: offering a humongous contract to an aging player who we cannot afford to pay off to fuck off. Clearly he won’t want to leave unless we pay him what we owe him. This is his last BIG contract after all (at least in Europe).

With that said, are we sure these rumors are true? FC Barcelona has a history of running smear campaigns against players who don’t wanna leave.

 

[Loki]

With that said, are we sure these rumors are true? FC Barcelona has a history of running smear campaigns against players who don’t wanna leave.

If it was fabricated, than the easiest way for MAtS is tell publicly it's a smear campaign and he didn't block the report to be sent to LaLiga. Pretty sure the club told the journalists after MAtS behaved like a salty teenager.

Ter Stegen did not want anyone from Barça to accompany him to Bordeaux for his surgery. He also maintained no contact with Ignasi Moix, the club doctor sent to Bordeaux, and didn’t even meet him after his surgery. It’s an open war now. [
@fansjavimiguel
] #fcblive

 

[malvolio]

With that said, are we sure these rumors are true? FC Barcelona has a history of running smear campaigns against players who don’t wanna leave.

Probably the case, but at least the haters got a good kick out of it.

 

[jamrock]

The club handled the goalkeeper situation very sloppily, so it falls on Deco and Laporta.

I, like most, understood we needed a new keeper, but didn't expect us to sign one this summer. García comes up as a market opportunity after having a great season; we sign him, no problem.

But we then had zero need to renew Ter Stegen. Pat him on the back, tell him thanks for your service, you won a domestic double, lived a great experience, we will forever be grateful, but that's it.

Sell Peña, who, based on last season, should have a market somewhere.

Have García and Mats fight for #1; he will lose, then choose to leave in January or in the summer.

Loan Kochen and whatever that other young keeper is and see how they develop. Next year, bring back one as backup.

Simple and clean.

 

[Andresito]

I meant other clubs. I don't think there is a legal entity difference between a club's main team and its reserves side. When you sign your contract you sign it with a bussiness entity that pays taxes and everything, not the first team per se. That first team itself doesn't have a legal form in itself to sign contracts with players directly. The club has.

This rarely happens because usually it makes no sense to put a player you pay millions for in the reserves team. But in some cases, when situation gets dire, it was known to happen.

Wasn't based on this idea that the costs of Barcelona also includes basketball, and other sections as well. It's probably the same bussiness entity that signs players for all sections.

See the added part of my post explaining this. It's not possible in Spain, and particularly not possible for the case of ter Stegen.

 

[delancey]

If it was fabricated, than the easiest way for MAtS is tell publicly it's a smear campaign and he didn't block the report to be sent to LaLiga. Pretty sure the club told the journalists after MAtS behaved like a salty teenager.

Ter Stegen did not want anyone from Barça to accompany him to Bordeaux for his surgery. He also maintained no contact with Ignasi Moix, the club doctor sent to Bordeaux, and didn’t even meet him after his surgery. It’s an open war now. [
@fansjavimiguel
] #fcblive

He’s really shooting himself in the foot if rumors are true.

 

[serghei]

I'm curious what was the plan of Barcelona to register Nico Williams if he actually signed.

 

[jairzinho]

That's the case if club has all the leverage. But if you are broke as Barca is and are having issues registering players, maybe the best approach would not be to resort to smearing trough the media?

A better approach would be to ensure the club can actually register players before signing them.

Right now it looks like Laporta and co. signs players and then figure out ways to register them.

 

[draconifire]

The Taliban didn't go down so easily, nor will he.

 

[Loki]

I'm curious what was the plan of Barcelona to register Nico Williams if he actually signed.

Barca has ffp margin, they sold some players, extended some, but they wait for the official numbers from LaLiga to know exactly how much. Garcia's registration doesn't depend on MAtS 4 months injury, that's just the easiest and fastest way that opened up and he now blocks. Barca is waiting for the auditor to approve the VIP seats sale, that will give the club another 100m.
Every club in LaLiga aside from Real is waiting for LaLiga's report to register players. That doesn't mean they can't.

And LaLiga defused some of their regulations. I think they allow now up to 3 players to register even without ffp margin on a temporary basis, for which they need to generate the margin during the season. So if everything fails, this will be an option as well. Calma, there won't be any issues. No matter how salty MAtS continues to behave.

 

[Birdy]

He can't be demoted to B side.

He can be ousted to the stands, and individual training THO.

And that should happen.
He should NEVER AGAIN take part of 1st team happenings

 

[Birdy]

Yes, if said player is captain, has a long contract and you want to negotiate an exit. And there's also the issue of registering other players.

Informed? Seemed more like "informed" trough the media, like everybody else.

No club informs the players they want to replace, especially the ones who don't want to leave.

The best (i should say, the ONLY?) strategy to kick out one such player is to sign a replacement, play the replacement, and let them rot either at the bench or the stands.
It takes only 6months-1year of that treatment, and then even the most stubborn become 'convinced' to leave

Yet, what the fatty and his circus running the club do the following CRIMINAL thing:
they entangle signing a replacement with the FFP generated by the one to leave.
That way, they give HUGE leverage to the latter to play as much as HARDBALL they want, and refuse to go.
Because they know very well they hold all the card in such case.

Fat clown tried it for 3 years with Frenkie, now he does it again with the cunt.
The circus never learns

 

[khaled_a_d]

Roger Terello & Fernando Polo are some of the most reliable Barca reporters.

He was, but he sold his soul to the devil, i.e the club.
He is an absolute clown now, and he was one of the journalists who kept claiming Marc is training alone because he is mad at the club, and then we realize it was due to injury.
He only speaks of the club view, and has no problem attacking any player for it.

Good. Sue him and get rid if him. Now we have clear cause.

He has bigger cause for sueing if we punish him for exercising his rights.
And if anything, Marc is saving the club from their own incompetence. Counting on injury for registration for just 4 month will yield to another Olmo case.

 

[awardTour]

But we then had zero need to renew Ter Stegen. Pat him on the back, tell him thanks for your service, you won a domestic double, lived a great experience, we will forever be grateful, but that's it.

That's where you are wrong. The club renewed him during COVID to save the club from financial ruin, and then did again in 2023 after a nearly record breaking season for the same reason. They kicked the can one too many times and now in 2025 the bill is due.

It all comes down to Laporta feeling the heat of finances and registrations.