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I don't know how much you know about Liverpool's history, but if you haven't heard of him, google Tommy Smith. Bit of a hard nut. Smith used psychological ploys to threaten and intimidate opposition players.[43] That said, he certainly had the respect of his peers, with fellow professional Jack...

I meant the looks stuff.

Haven't heard it but probably decent. I am making one post on this as Andresito doesn't like this sort of talk or off-topic stuff - but Shearer is a good looking bald bloke. Good body too. I can imagine women thinking he's the rough and ready type. OTOH, Danny Murphy looks like a troll.

There were some guys from the 60s, 70s and 80s who were said to be hard. Dave McKay stands out as one. Chopper Harris as another. They might just have been on pitch hard men, though.

Aye Shearer was weirdly hard. You wouldn't really think he would be, but he was. Going bald toughened the lad up. By that logic Horatio is the toughest guy here.

Yeah i was gonna mention that story. I think it might have happened more than once. I think the first time was when he was up here at Rangers. I don't really care who is hard and who isn't - I myself am a placid guy who doesn't get into fights, and I don't care about a footballer's hardness. My...

Correct, Duncan is the real deal. Absolutely clueless about football too, but an actual hard guy. Not too sure on Vinnie. Probably back in the day but he's mellowed a lot it would appear.

Just seen Roy Keane offer a fan out in the cark park for the 'crime' of saying he is a better pundit than he is manager (missed it at the time). Was any lie told? All these ex-Ferguson players have a very-narrow minded 'United in the 90s and 2000s is the only way' mindset, from Keane to...

Horatio W Proves my point about fine margins - I go from green to red with almost the lack kick of the football.

Exactly, he clearly meant it. Their winning goal looked slightly offside too.

Great goal by Hojlund to be honest, anyone would be proud of that. Still generally think he's poor, though.

You (I?) joke but that could actually make a good plot to a film if great writers used the premise well haha.

I am always willing to admit if I am hasty, Gato, and I already conceded some ground with saying I maybe overrated Salah as a playmaker, and was harsh calling Vini one dimensional. I relented to a degree. But now you are getting greedy and want me to admit that Vini is a playmaker...

2-0 Rangers in Nice, fair play to them. Another L for Jim Ratcliffe.

United will probably still win but this is so funny. Bodo/Glimt have been dangerous though. Lol Matterface talking about how expensive their team is and they should win - they vastly overspend on players, so that is no reflection of the quality of their team. When will the English media get...

I've been accused of being everyone on here. At this stage it's just me as every poster arguing with myself, like James McAvoy in Split.

I said Salah is a better final third passer than Vinicius with better vision and better at threading eye of the needle passes. I stand by that. I also accepted maybe I was giving Salah too much credit, and maybe I was harsh calling Vini one dimensional. Again maybe it is your definition, but...

Fati knows I get on with him and like him a lot, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything he does or all his opinions, same as he doesn't concur with everything I do. That's what it means getting on with someone - accepting their foibles.

@Horatio @Fati_Future_BallonDor Not sure on some

Thanks mate, a couple that didn't work out but overall not bad. Mixed with the 8 EL earlies. I believe it is 4 right, 4 wrong. An upset or two, though.