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I mentioned Salah originally, it was Tempt who brought up neymar. Either way, I maintain that Neymar, Hazard and Salah have more layers to their games than Vini and Mbappe, and I think you'd have to have lost the plot to disagree. I never said they 'ain't it'. You have reading comprehension...

I have watched him a lot. He can't put in an 'insane performance' without scoring. That's one of the key differences between he and Messi. He's far more reliant on stats to look good.

'His record against big teams in CL knockouts' For example, his three goals in the semis and final of 2014 CL count as 'goals against big teams in CL knockouts'. Yet all three of them were utterly pointless.

Never aaid he was a poacher - said he was the tip of the spear - not the same thing. Point is he has scored important goals, but you are pointing out how many goals he scored, and I am adding context that a lot of them were unimportant. That's a fact when you analyse them, whether you like it...

:lol: Whatever pal - look how angry you're getting because someone offered some gentle criticism of a guy you will never even meet. I even said he's a great player and you're still posting like a girl on her period defending her favourite boybander. I said he was fairly one dimensional, and I...

They are great, but as I have said, stats are not the be all and end all. He also scored plenty of meaningless goals too. As just two examples, most of his goals in the 2014 CL knockout rounds were scored when games were already done and dusted. And I believe he scored 16 goals in 2016 CL, but...

You say that but they're already being forgotten by the younger generations. I'd say the same will happen to Messi and Ronaldo when they are 'ancient cunts' to the kids of 50 years from now and several hotshots have been and gone since them. But they both benefit from being almost the earliest...

Hazard and Neymar were more playmaking yes. But I never understood people who said Salah played like a glorified poacher. True he comes more alive in the final third but his incisive passing an dribbling were superb back in the day. I never got why people acted like he just hung around the area...

True, it works both ways, I never disputed that, unlike kids now claiming past players were nobodies who played with the dinosaurs. The point is we don't just lazily assume past players were inferior because there's a lot less footage of them. That's insane.

I have always said Salah is a great playmaker and argued with my bro who says he is as invisible in general play as Ronaldo has been. So doesn't apply to me I am afraid. Hazard and Neymar are playmaking wingers too, yes.

It's mostly about celebrity worship and patriotism, and if they are correct or not. And Lewa trolls who only show up to discuss him and nothing else on the forum, and put down his team-mates to make out nothing is ever his fault. There's 5 or 6 of these on this site.

There's loads of footage of both of them online, full games, not just highlights. Also, I seen Maradona as a kid, although obviously not Pele. Either way, the point is ignorance is no excuse. Just because someone played years ago we don't automatically put players from the modern era above...

You're one of the Lewandowski troll worshippers I am referring to, so I expect no different from you. You're obviously Polish too, so very biased. And I bet you know nothing about Van Basten and Muller. Also funny to say 'even better than C Ronaldo' and totally ignore Pele and Maradona, who...

Anyway with how bad you look and how you are getting away with it in certain games, Birdy and I have been proved right on you so far this season. Ancelotti doesn't have any tactical sophistication, and your style of football is lopsided and awful. You're so arrogant that you expect a potential...

Compared to the likes of Salah he is, and you know it. His game is basic - he dribbles, has pace, cuts inside and shoots. He doesn't really do much great in the general play. Btw, I knew and rated Vinicus when he was 16 and Real Madrid provisionally signed him In July 2016, probably unlike...

Vinicius is better, but they're both one dimensional as fuck. They're like miles better versions of Garnacho. Dribble with pace or the odd trick, cut inside, shoot, occasionally go down the line and cross. Neither of them really have any playmaking quality whatsoever, to be honest. That's fine...

Must be an American :lol:

Fair enough - I like you as a guy (though having read your political posts we are indeed very different in that arena, but I wouldn't let that get between us chatting and getting on). We are different in that sense. Thanks for the compliment. I guess I have just never understood nationalism and...

I don't care what you say, it is weird as fuck to follow individual players from club to club and support players over teams - even if they're your countryman. This is extremely modern football fan, celebrity worship behaviour. It's like when Ronaldo fanboy once said he could stop following...

Also, @TemporaryFan leaning into 'I have watched more than you over the last 14 years' (although you say it in a nice way) to try to elevate your opinion above mine won't work. I have seen plenty of Lewa before he went to Barca (I am not even a Barca fan). Plus you don't need to watch someone...