Dean Huijsen

[Porque]

Yes you left out one important bit, with 10 men.

All defenders on the pitch and you can't see out a game with 5 minutes left and you try the blame the defenders?.

I'm sorry but miss me with that bullshit.

Well, why did we have 10 men?

 

[jamrock]

Against durtmond again it was a joke defensive setup

The won time we tried to defend was against benfica and it actually worked, as it did a few times this season where the defensive carried us to a win when the attackers weren't clicking.

If you're attacking with 3 minutes left and have a 4 V 4, and a high line.

You're going to concede simply as that.

All you can hope for is the opposition to miss

 

[serghei]

Well, why did we have 10 men?

Yeah, but since you bring it up, some were blaming Xavi because of Araujo's fuck-up saying how his system didn't protect him. Remember that? That didn't go too well this season either.

Seems like this is the unofficial occupation of bums in goal and in defense. To burn their managers.

 

[BJJ]

We either get a cb or we get a quality right back and shift Kounde back to cb.
Araujo is a liability, Christensen injured, Inigo old and Pau has a long way to go.
Cb is a no brainer.
Have you ever seen a cl winning team with a weak cb pairing?

 

[jamrock]

Well, why did we have 10 men?

Because the defender fucked up, that wasn't a system issue that was a individual issue.

Attacking with 3 minutes left and having such an horrible defensive shape, is a system issue.

I mean what are we even talking about here?.

Araujo doesn't make an error, we not conceding 6 to PSG, even then it took cancelo being regarded to get to 6 goals.

But still we conceded less with 10 men.

And I'm not even trying to get into a Xavi thing, so anyone reading this, don't bother me with that BS.

It's very simple, the structure failed the players last night, not the other way around.

 

[serghei]

Point is managers can only do so much. Sure they can do some things to carry some bums and make the defense less exposed, but that's not how it works.

All managers have a way of playing and that way of playing comes with a sensible demand that players don't fuck up individually. If that happens you tend to lose in CL vs good teams, no matter the plan.

 

[jamrock]

Point is managers can only do so much. Sure they can do some things to carry some bums and make the defense less exposed, but that's not how it works.

All managers have a way of playing and that way of playing comes with a sensible demand that players don't fuck up individually. If that happens you tend to lose in CL vs good teams, no matter the plan.

Okay so now you don't think it was fine we had 4 V 4 with 3 minutes remaining?.

Because you've been flip flopping on this since the actually goal happened.

 

[serghei]

Okay so now you don't think it was fine we had 4 V 4 with 3 minutes remaining?.

Because you've been flip flopping on this since the actually goal happened.

No, I think it was a mistake, because I know Araujo. Xavi and Flick both got done by some bums in the team.

Your seem to think the system caused the defenders to be poor in this match. It's the other way around. The defenders in this team are generally not very good, and occasionally shite.

But once you know that you can't trust your defenders (which is basically the root cause of our problems vs Inter), we should have made it harder for them to fuck it up. And we didn't. That was a mistake for me.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Yes you left out one important bit, with 10 men.

All defenders on the pitch and you can't see out a game with 5 minutes left and you try the blame the defenders?.

I'm sorry but miss me with that bullshit.

I left it out of courtesy, because makes it worse.

We were 10 men because Cubarsi wanted nothing with the ball when he saw Mbappe pressing him, and Araujo can't pass, then tried to fix a mistake with another mistake.

It was a personal problem, exactly as you said, not a system one.

Which proves my point. PERSONAL ARE FUCKING ISSUE. They shit on themselves continuously under every coach in Europe.

At some point, yoe need to call a spade a spade

 

[jamrock]

No, I think it was a mistake, because I know Araujo. Xavi and Flick both got done by some bums in the team.

Okay so it's settled, you thought it was fine how we sat up to end the game, with 3 minutes remaining.

Don't let me see you flip flopping about this 10 minutes from now.

Because you're a poster that likes to have his cake and eat it too.

 

[jamrock]

I left it out of courtesy, because makes it worse.

We were 10 men because Cubarsi wanted nothing with the ball when he saw Mbappe pressing him, and Araujo can't pass, then tried to fix a mistake with another mistake.

It was a personal problem, exactly as you said, not a system one.

Which proves my point. PERSONAL ARE FUCKING ISSUE. They shit on themselves continuously under every coach in Europe.

At some point, yoe need to call a spade a spade

You just said absolutely nothing just now to be clear.

Literally nothing.

How is that comparable to 4 V 4, with a 1 goal led with 3 minutes to go?.


😂 .

I can't believe you thought you has me there

 

[serghei]

Okay so it's settled, you thought it was fine how we sat up to end the game, with 3 minutes remaining.

Don't let me see you flip flopping about this 10 minutes from now.

Because you're a poster that likes to have his cake and eat it too.

You just got your cause and effect wrong. Cause is defenders especially Araujo were from average all the way up to shite. Effect is we should have adjusted our approach in the end of the match. To limit the potential consequences of that.

You seem to think the cause was how we set up, and the effect was that good defenders like Araujo made expected mistakes under such gameplan.

Any defender worth his salt there blocks a 37 old CB at that cross. Every one of them. It's just a fact. Flick didn't ask from Araujo anything more than for him to do his basic CB job against a depleted team.

 

[jamrock]

Doing anything but what we did with 3 minutes left, reduces our chances of conceding by 99% yesterday.

No matter who is in the pitch.

Who the hell looks to score a goal, when you're up 1 with 3 minutes to go.

Dean would make 0 difference yesterday or almost any other defender.

The last 5 minutes was a let down of the structure not the players, it's that simple

 

[serghei]

Doing anything but what we did with 3 minutes left, reduces our chances of conceding by 99% yesterday.

No matter who is in the pitch.

Who the hell looks to score a goal, when you're up 1 with 3 minutes to go.

Dean would make 0 difference yesterday or almost any other defender.

The last 5 minutes was a let down of the structure not the players, it's that simple

Yes, as I told you. You can reduce the chance of defenders fucking up individually by defending more compact with more men behind the ball. You're still acting as if it's acceptable for Barca level players to play like Segunda Division bums.

 

[jamrock]

You just got your cause and effect wrong. Cause is defenders especially Araujo were from average all the way up to shite. Effect is we should have adjusted our approach in the end of the match. To limit the potential consequences of that.

You seem to think the cause was how we set up, and the effect was that good defenders like Araujo made expected mistakes under such gameplan.

Any defender worth his salt there blocks a 37 old CB at that cross. Every one of them. It's just a fact. Flick didn't ask from Araujo anything more than for him to do his basic CB job against a depleted team.

I agree with you, except in reverse lol.

No defender bar a flick team, would be put in that position to behind with.

Cubarsi should have been the one to cut that ball out, but instead he was dragged to the LB position, to do the job raph or a midfielder should have been doing, which is cover Martin.

CAUSE POOR DEFENSE setup
Effect, No CL final.