Xavi Hernández

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vegitot

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Laporta disagrees. He thinks he should coach Barca B first, that's why he'll never become the coach of Barca under Laporta. Only thing that could change that is that Xavi coaches another European team first.

Also Xavi is Font's trump card so Laporta probably doesn't like him much. Btw he was pretty quite when Laporta vs Font, didn't back up Font.
 

vegitot

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These are the rumours, nothing substantiated

Only hurdles to Xavi taking over are either issues Laporta had with his link to Font or simply trying to find a more 'sure thing' to restart. I think the latter speaks more to what others have commented on that not having Johan's sporting expertise leaves Joan lacking in assessment. Surely he believes in Xavi since Pep took over in 2008 with even less coaching experience than Xavi has currently

You want to truly restart and adhere to the foundations of the club, there is no one better positioned for this than Xavi

Pep coached B team so he could work with young players, develop them and find talents. That's how he promoted Busquest, Pedro. Which players Xavi will bring here from Qatar??? Santi Cazola???

Xavi coaches in Qatar not for experience. It is for money.
 

Birdy

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Surely he believes in Xavi since Pep took over in 2008 with even less coaching experience than Xavi has currently

Where is the evidence for that certainty?
Sure not from Laporta's statements
Neither from the rumors, all of which conclude that Laporta thinks Xavi is not ready

Only the logically false proposition "Pep did it->hence, every Barca legend of similar profile to Pep can do it"
used lavishly by the Xavi fanboys is left...

Also Xavi is Font's trump card so Laporta probably doesn't like him much. Btw he was pretty quite when Laporta vs Font, didn't back up Font.

Xavi tried to play it smart here and lost big time.
He back-stabbed Font to pave the way to become a coach even with Laporta president,
but his alliance with Font did not go down well with Laporta
 

behindbrowneyes

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These are the rumours, nothing substantiated

Only hurdles to Xavi taking over are either issues Laporta had with his link to Font or simply trying to find a more 'sure thing' to restart. I think the latter speaks more to what others have commented on that not having Johan's sporting expertise leaves Joan lacking in assessment. Surely he believes in Xavi since Pep took over in 2008 with even less coaching experience than Xavi has currently

You want to truly restart and adhere to the foundations of the club, there is no one better positioned for this than Xavi

Recent history has shown that those coaches who worked at Barca B were the most successful. Pep took over directly, Lucho chose to make some other first-team experiences first before he took the job. Even Zidane went a step down from being Co of Ancelotti to coaching the Castilla. Xavi has chosen the easy way, making money in some retirement league and hoping for the job offer right away. His unwillingness to coach the B team first might not go down well with some board members, Laporta including. Some might even see it as arrogance.

Xavi never really backed Font, but it is obvious from Font's plannings that Xavi wants "more" power. I agree that if you want to truly restart and adhere to the foundations of the club Xavi should be one of the candidates, but I see why there is a lack of trust in him as he clearly lacks experience in Europe.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Pep coached B team so he could work with young players, develop them and find talents. That's how he promoted Busquest, Pedro. Which players Xavi will bring here from Qatar??? Santi Cazola???

Xavi coaches in Qatar not for experience. It is for money.

Pep coached in the 4th division for a single season prior to getting 1st team job. Xavi has had 2 years with a senior Al Saad squad and they reflect the hallmarks of a Barca team - attacking width, pressing high and attacking transitions via rapid one touch passes, dribbling & layoffs on a fraction of budget

Both schooled in the Barcelona way, both played the same position, both worked together and both were coaches even on the pitch as players - no one is better positioned to lead the restart than Xavi
 

jairzinho

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Also Xavi is Font's trump card so Laporta probably doesn't like him much. Btw he was pretty quite when Laporta vs Font, didn't back up Font.

Don't think it has to do with ties to Font. Laporta is a big fan of Xavi but it looks like he wants a coach with more experience. Probably feels taking Xavi on is a huge risk and wants to bet on a safer option. It doesn't help either that he coaches in the European equivalent of a pub league. Pretty sure most can't recall the name of the team and keep having to google it.
 

jairzinho

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Pep coached in the 4th division for a single season prior to getting 1st team job.

Not taking anything away from Pep but he did have some of the best players in the history of the club and game to work with. Xavi isn't going to have that. We're more closer to being a midtable team with players we have compared to what Pep had to work with. Genius tactician he is but he did have a completely different set of players at his disposable and also very different circumstances compared to now.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Recent history has shown that those coaches who worked at Barca B were the most successful. Pep took over directly, Lucho chose to make some other first-team experiences first before he took the job. Even Zidane went a step down from being Co of Ancelotti to coaching the Castilla. Xavi has chosen the easy way, making money in some retirement league and hoping for the job offer right away. His unwillingness to coach the B team first might not go down well with some board members, Laporta including. Some might even see it as arrogance.

Xavi never really backed Font, but it is obvious from Font's plannings that Xavi wants "more" power. I agree that if you want to truly restart and adhere to the foundations of the club Xavi should be one of the candidates, but I see why there is a lack of trust in him as he clearly lacks experience in Europe.

I wouldn't call the step from the 4th division to senior level a direct transition - he skipped several levels of league in between. The point was really about getting his message across to his players to play in a style that effused Barca/Cruyff principles

Easy way for Xavi is a matter of opinion - it's true he is more insulated and with less pressure in Doha but you're kidding yourself if you think Pep had much pressure/scrutiny in the 4th division. Even Zidane struggled with RMs youth team as did Lucho with the B team. Unwillingness to take a step down after coaching at a higher level doesn't equate to arrogance and I certainly don't view even a 3rd division B team experience better than that of Al Sadd - why? Because you know the players? The experience comparison is very weak, if anything Xavi's success with Al Sadd speaks more than that of the 4th division success. There is no guarantee another Pep will come along but there is also no question no one has a more similar resume to provide the coaching most of us crave than Xavi

Font lost the election for a number of reasons, not least of which was the tepid support he got from Xavi who had no intention to put himself between him & Laporta
 

vegitot

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Pep coached in the 4th division for a single season prior to getting 1st team job. Xavi has had 2 years with a senior Al Saad squad and they reflect the hallmarks of a Barca team - attacking width, pressing high and attacking transitions via rapid one touch passes, dribbling & layoffs on a fraction of budget

Both schooled in the Barcelona way, both played the same position, both worked together and both were coaches even on the pitch as players - no one is better positioned to lead the restart than Xavi

And Pep promoted Busquest, Pedro to Barca. Which one will Xavi bring from Qatar??? Santi Cazola???

I don't watch his Al Saad in Qatar league, only AFC Champione league. He carries one of richest team in Qatar and they look way worse when playing in AFC.

Honestly i don't know what experience Xavi gained from Qatar. Not Europe atmosphere, not finding youth talent.

So if Laporta or anyone doesn't rate Xavi's experience in Qatar, it is fair.
 

Birdy

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His unwillingness to coach the B team first might not go down well with some board members, Laporta including. Some might even see it as arrogance.

It is arrogance through and through!
Let's not pretend here

Not only his unwillingness to coach B team, but also:
his unwillingness to coach anywhere else (rejected offers from Dortmund and Brazil NT)
his entitlement to become Barca coach no matter what,
his entitlement to just wait in the Qatari league for this to land like a ripe fruit onto him,
his demands to mold a sporting structure according to his wishes

Someone needs to teach him some humility.
I prefer that lesson not to take place with him coaching the 1st team.
We have had enough humiliations recently
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Not taking anything away from Pep but he did have some of the best players in the history of the club and game to work with. Xavi isn't going to have that. We're more closer to being a midtable team with players we have compared to what Pep had to work with. Genius tactician he is but he did have a completely different set of players at his disposable and also very different circumstances compared to now.

Most don't remember then because 2008 was a very low point for club & fans, similar to now. We were coming off disappointing results/season and our star player was being ushered out the door. No one knew what Leo was going to do either since he had been habitually injured, not unlike the situation with Dembele or Fati. Uncertainty was palpable. Pep was a club legend but no one knew what to expect with him, all we saw even when they drew early was that he had a plan and was going to stick to it (Attack, attack, attack) regardless of criticism. Xavi will be no different
 

vegitot

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Don't think it has to do with ties to Font. Laporta is a big fan of Xavi but it looks like he wants a coach with more experience. Probably feels taking Xavi on is a huge risk and wants to bet on a safer option. It doesn't help either that he coaches in the European equivalent of a pub league. Pretty sure most can't recall the name of the team and keep having to google it.

His club has like 50 players. They have much more resouces than their opponents in Qatar league. But when they face decent teams in Asia, they fail miserably.
 

Birdy

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There is no guarantee another Pep will come along but there is also no question no one has a more similar resume to provide the coaching most of us crave than Xavi
Another absurd generalization driven by emotion
Similar resume, compiled by his interviews I assume? Or by his successes in .... Qatar?

There are coaches out there, like Ten Haag, who have been practicing and having achieved playing the Barca way the last 4 years at the highest level.
That's a resume mate, not whatever happens in a retirement league or whatever someone says in an interview
 

vegitot

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Most don't remember then because 2008 was a very low point for club & fans, similar to now. We were coming off disappointing results/season and our star player was being ushered out the door. No one knew what Leo was going to do either since he had been habitually injured, not unlike the situation with Dembele or Fati. Uncertainty was palpable. Pep was a club legend but no one knew what to expect with him, all we saw even when they drew early was that he had a plan and was going to stick to it (Attack, attack, attack) regardless of criticism. Xavi will be no different

Messi was top 3 Ballon dor and Fifa Poty when Pep took over. Beside Pep had much better squad. Season before club failed miserably in Liga but actually played well in UCL, even dominated Manu in semi final.
 

Birdy

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Pep had Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Eto, Alves, Puyol, Pique, Toure in their prime
It was clear that these players just needed a good coach to play great football

What are we even talking about??
 
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