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KingLeo10

KingLeo10

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Temptation said:
Since people dismissed my KDB point by saying Xavi, Iniesta and Modric are better:

Zidane is a number 10 according to most managers and the man himself.

He's rated higher than CMs like Xavi, Iniesta, Modric generally. Now I am sure people here will disagree with that but we can all agree that Zidane is a bigger name than all of them and more highly rated within the game.

Messi and Ronaldo talk about Zidane like he's one of the GOATs lol. We saw how much Messi respects him in that Adidas thing. Ronaldo said Zidane and Messi are the greatest players he has ever seen. R9 said he's the best player he has ever played with.

So number 10s can be better than CMs which was my argument.
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No. 10s were some of the most glamorous and gifted players….for the football where individual magic defined wins.

In today’s football, there is no need for a true 10. And those that do have one suffer in big moments. Not a coincidence that Wirtz has been awful in the KO CL and Europa final games.

ZZ played 20-30 years ago.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
KingLeo10 said:
No. 10s were some of the most glamorous and gifted players….for the football where individual magic defined wins.

In today’s football, there is no need for a true 10. And those that do have one suffer in big moments. Not a coincidence that Wirtz has been awful in the KO CL and Europa final games.

ZZ played 20-30 years ago.
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Yeah that is what I was saying. Just you've been more direct and to the point.
 
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Temptation

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KDB has been consistently elite in CL knockouts even against teams like RM. His teammates let him down. Best player on the pitch in most of those games.

The sample space for Wirtz is way too small to make a judgement yet. Leverkusen were never taken seriously in the CL. The jury is still out.

Here's the proof regarding KDB before people try to deny it. I'm not creating false narratives:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914275998138331236

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1899608922173964605

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800529418890432619

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757501230950002882
 
soul24rage

soul24rage

Senior Member
look at how he curves his neck lol

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Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Temptation said:
KDB has been consistently elite in CL knockouts even against teams like RM. His teammates let him down. Best player on the pitch in most of those games.

The sample space for Wirtz is way too small to make a judgement yet. Leverkusen were never taken seriously in the CL. The jury is still out.

Here's the proof regarding KDB before people try to deny it. I'm not creating false narratives:
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Aguero has had a mare in the first two chances in that 31 second video. Missed the ball first time then took a heavy touch in the second one.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Rassvet said:
Portugal NEVER reached an International FINAL before Cristiano Ronaldo. They just reached their FOURTH with him.

@Fati_Future_BallonDor
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That's more coincidence and timing than anything. Correlation is not causation. They only really became a big power who created a lot of really great players in the late 80s or early 90s, and it took them until the late 90s and early 00s to solidify. Just so happens a lot of their top players of all time (Eusebio and some others aside) have come through just before or during Ronaldo's time.

He's never come close to a Player of the Tournament award. In 2004 he was a junior player (albeit he came into the team in the first game, at half-time), in 2016 he had two good games and sat out the final that they won after injury. And the other two are very minor trophies in the Nations League.

I like you mate, but I know you will find a way to spin everything I just said if you respond. Night, lol.
 
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