Rassvet
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soul24rage
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They've now done #4 but with a different GK.
Seems like they will get Carrick as their interim manager which takes off #2 and probably #6
Players like Cunha who were bought to play in a 343 is going to hurt them.
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In saying all this, I have them down to win 2-1 today, lol. Though I looked at Burnley's squad and it looks better than it did last time they were here - Jaidon Anthony and Marcus Edwards look like they can cause problems for them, and they have Kyle Walker at the back who has lots of experience...
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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First of all Manu needs a leader in midfield, PSG was also a meme club until Vitinha came. You need someone who can take the ball in stressed situation, doesnt lose it and create sth. Ugarte and Casemiro are completely trash.
Offense look ok with Cunha Sesko and Mbeumo.
Sesko scored 2 amazing goals vs Burnely
Offense look ok with Cunha Sesko and Mbeumo.
Sesko scored 2 amazing goals vs Burnely
ToranagaSama
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How do they manage to stay relevant from a marketing perspective though? If a big club struggles for 3 seasons, fine, they might not lose many fans. But last time they competed for a major trophy was almost 15 years ago. Even under Ferguson they were already massively declining. What would draw teenagers and young fans towards United in this day and age? If you are 20 now, you have barely seen them lift a major trophy in your lifetime, they don't play particularly attractive football as Arsenal used to do under Wenger despite no trophies, they don't have any superstars worth following. So how are they still successful revenue-wise? Boomers keeping them alive? Local Manchester people who refuse to root for City's Arab sugar daddies?
How many more years can they be this unsuccessful on the pitch yet remain strong financially?
How many more years can they be this unsuccessful on the pitch yet remain strong financially?
GloryHunter 007
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make it 20.
Rassvet
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There's no set rule. Like of Milan and Juve fell off as soon as they weren't competing for CL titles while special teams with enough prestige/brand strength like Cowboys, Yankees, and Manchester United can probably remain a super club off the pitch for decades without winning anything major.
That's why United are a bigger club than Liverpool (sorry @Temptation). Look at the earliest years of the deloitte money league. That was less than a decade after Liverpool's dominant era and they were barely cracking top 10 and even finishing 19th in 2000.
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MonteCuler
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I don't think Man Utd is a "super club" off the pitch at all at the moment
Look at shirt sales. I genuinely have no idea when was the last time I saw someone in a Man U shirt. Especially of new generations. You can still see a Vidic or Ronaldo shirt here and there
I don't think it's so talked about anymore either. Everybody knows United is wank and it's got a little boring even trolling them anymore. Like I said they got kicked out of FA cup by Brighton and I barely got to see it in the media, it's become normalized. Any of the top PL clubs does that and it would be everywhere
And who is watching Man U these days, aside from Man U fans? Football is extremely dull and they are not direct competition to anyone
We are currently in the position that they are a midtable club. It means that it is not surprising to anyone if they finish say 8th or 9th. If it stays like that for a couple more years, United will maybe be cemented in that position
Look at shirt sales. I genuinely have no idea when was the last time I saw someone in a Man U shirt. Especially of new generations. You can still see a Vidic or Ronaldo shirt here and there
I don't think it's so talked about anymore either. Everybody knows United is wank and it's got a little boring even trolling them anymore. Like I said they got kicked out of FA cup by Brighton and I barely got to see it in the media, it's become normalized. Any of the top PL clubs does that and it would be everywhere
And who is watching Man U these days, aside from Man U fans? Football is extremely dull and they are not direct competition to anyone
We are currently in the position that they are a midtable club. It means that it is not surprising to anyone if they finish say 8th or 9th. If it stays like that for a couple more years, United will maybe be cemented in that position
TheStig
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The differenece between AC Milan and United's decline is that United still plays in the most popular and rich league while Serie A crumbled together with Milan. If EPL was in financial crisis in the last 15 years United would fall in all aspects like Milan did 15 years ago.
khaled_a_d
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While this is true, there is also the brand type and timing factors.
Clubs like Barca, RM & Manu has built massive legacy during the sociel media and smart phones era, with mega marketable goats. It was the perfect timing for everything.
Italian league peak was in late 80's and the 90's,long before that. They were very dependent on domestic market.
La liga failed to benefit from the Messi vs CR7 era, the greatest rivalry in the history of the sport, but Barca and Madrid actually succeeded.
Temptation
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Wow!
It's from Ornstein too. The most reliable journalist right now.
It's from Ornstein too. The most reliable journalist right now.
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GloryHunter 007
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dude Man City is top 5 because of recent success and gloryhunters, in terms of trophies they arent close to top 5.
and Barca is miles ahead of UTD.
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