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delancey

delancey

Senior Member
Windhook said:
The worst happened earlier on in the season and I'm repeating myself - Amorim deserved the sack before December. But not now, it was an upward trajectory.
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Cool, we’re all entitled to our opinion. I agree that he deserved the sack for his results and not for speaking up against the board.
 
Andresito

Andresito

Senior Member
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Lol

With Amorim's sacking, the infamous streak continues: Matthijs de Ligt has a new head coach at the start of every new season of his professional football career

16/17: Peter Bosz

17/18: Marcel Keizer

18/19: Erik ten Hag

19/20: Maurizio Sarri

20/21: Andrea Pirlo

21/22: Max Allegri

22/23: Julian Nagelsmann

23/24: Thomas Tuchel

24/25: Erik ten Hag

25/26: Ruben Amorim

26/27: TBD (current interim Darren Fletcher)
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Windhook said:
Yeah, was joking for the bad English. Amorim didn't seek any sacking, he just stood his ground. "I am the manager. Not the coach." obviously someone backstage is making the big decisions behind his back. Amorim kept his dignity clean, but shouldn't have made this giant leap so early into the career in the first place.
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The "I am the manager thing" needs to die fast. You aren't a "manager" until you prove you are worth being one. There are folks up there who do a lot of stuff to help teams that you don't have time to.

And SD need to make long term decisions that takes into account that the coach isn't there forever, that even if they are loyal to him, he might not share the same loyalty and might get bored.

Amorim was stupid in that regard, he is essentially a no body that landed a decent opportunity for his career and he just had too much of an ego to make adjustments.

You can't be bossy to those who can fire you, unless you are way too good to be let go. And there is handful of those in the coaching world.

His obsession with 343 was also weird, the team wasn't built for that and he would have needed way too many changes to make it work. Hell, there was even a rumour it was one if the reasons Semanyo refused their offer, because he knew he was going to turn into a wingback rather than a winger.
 
Windhook

Windhook

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khaled_a_d said:
The "I am the manager thing" needs to die fast. You aren't a "manager" until you prove you are worth being one. There are folks up there who do a lot of stuff to help teams that you don't have time to.

And SD need to make long term decisions that takes into account that the coach isn't there forever, that even if they are loyal to him, he might not share the same loyalty and might get bored.

Amorim was stupid in that regard, he is essentially a no body that landed a decent opportunity for his career and he just had too much of an ego to make adjustments.

You can't be bossy to those who can fire you, unless you are way too good to be let go. And there is handful of those in the coaching world.

His obsession with 343 was also weird, the team wasn't built for that and he would have needed way too many changes to make it work. Hell, there was even a rumour it was one if the reasons Semanyo refused their offer, because he knew he was going to turn into a wingback rather than a winger.
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Amorim took the job with the idea like anyone previously - I'm the boss. Yeah, Amorim had the least of CVs as manager, knew the mission was doomed. Still managing Man Utd is a prestige.

When you are not in charge and people decide above you to sign Ronald Araujo when you want to sign a CF, you know you're fucked.
 
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Gnidrologist

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Maradona37

Maradona37

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Iniesta Ultra said:
Cunha, false 9 Zirks, Amad is best attacking trio in PL.

And Ham never played them together up front.
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You don't half talk a constant stream of bollocks when it comes to football. No offence.

Also, so many of the dickheads I have on ignore are posting so frequently in this thread that the pages are so short, haha.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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delancey said:
Worst manager in United’s history, perhaps?! 🤔
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If you know nothing about the history of football pre 1992, perhaps. If you only know the PL/CL era. As a plastic like you likely only does.

I have never seen you discuss anything about pre satellite TV football.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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In short, posting the question if Amorim is genuinely United's worst ever manager is an exercise in recency bias - where everything in the here and now is either the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.

Look into United's history - especially before Ferguson in the lean 70s and 80s, or when they were a non-entity before Busby, and tell me that Amorim (who I don't even rate) is their worst ever coach.

The fact you even seriously posited that question makes it even more offensive that you feel strong enough to compete with me in football or woman terms.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Windhook said:
The worst happened earlier on in the season and I'm repeating myself - Amorim deserved the sack before December. But not now, it was an upward trajectory.
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An 'upward trajectory' is 3 wins in 11 league games while generally performing poorly on the park aside from results?

I swear some of you lads live in a fucking parallel universe.
 
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