Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi V2

Hardy

Hardy

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ThwiX said:
MLS works in a weird way with those best of three playoff games, where the goals don’t matter at all. They should win the third one at home, but Cincinnati, and if they win that round, Philadelphia, will be very difficult. They have a tough path, as those teams are the only ones that finished ahead of them and they have to beat both just to get to the final. Don’t know how it works, but I also guess they will only have one home game vs. two away in those rounds.
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only the first round is best of 3, they are screwed anyway, cincinnati will crash them at home.
 
RedxMAK

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@Barcaman @serghei @khaled_a_d
I know that you guys have been following Barcelona since at least the Van Gaal era (1997-2000) so I want to know, what was your opinion on Messi before he broke out, like his first season 2004-05. Did he have the same hype as Lamine Yamal or were people more cautious regarding hyping him up
 
malvolio

malvolio

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RedxMAK said:
@Barcaman @serghei @khaled_a_d
I know that you guys have been following Barcelona since at least the Van Gaal era (1997-2000) so I want to know, what was your opinion on Messi before he broke out, like his first season 2004-05. Did he have the same hype as Lamine Yamal or were people more cautious regarding hyping him up
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For me the hype started when he scored that goal vs Juventus in the Gamper.
Hype in the media was not on the same levels as today mainly because social media was irrelevant back then. You didn't have the "opportunity" to read posts from idiots labelling Yamal the greatest teenager ever. :lol:
 
Barcaman

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RedxMAK said:
@Barcaman @serghei @khaled_a_d
I know that you guys have been following Barcelona since at least the Van Gaal era (1997-2000) so I want to know, what was your opinion on Messi before he broke out, like his first season 2004-05. Did he have the same hype as Lamine Yamal or were people more cautious regarding hyping him up
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You have to know there was a lot of hype about many players before him.

Most notable Ivan de la Pena (the little Buddha) was so big that shaved head haircuts in Croatia were called De la Pena. Back in a day with almost no coverage or internet.

When Messi broke out there was certainly hype but he broke in while prime Ronaldinho and Samuel Eto'o were dominating the season in La Liga so there was little pressure.

I did hate that Ludovic Guily. He was basically a RW in a Balde type. One dimensional runner. So was eager to see Messi take his place immediately.

Would say less hype than Lamine probably. Was a season where we took the league, among some big superstars in the squad + was eased in by Rijkaard.

Lamine debuted in shambolic season with no superstars to carry the load and played too much from the start.
 
Messi983

Messi983

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I was hyped up about likes of Gai Assulin and Iago Falque back then, lol. More about Catalan media hyping them up than me actually watching them regularly or social media following their every step that became a thing few years later.


Giuly* was ok and also played a role in Messi's development imo. Rijkaard had a proven dependable vet he could rotate Messi with to manage his minutes early in his career. Kind of a luxury that none of our kids who were thrown into the water since Ansu really had.

*also never forget his goal against Milan in 2006 though ofc Ronnie's pass was what made that goal even more memorable but Ludo still had to do his job.

 
soul24rage

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True cule

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khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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RedxMAK said:
@Barcaman @serghei @khaled_a_d
I know that you guys have been following Barcelona since at least the Van Gaal era (1997-2000) so I want to know, what was your opinion on Messi before he broke out, like his first season 2004-05. Did he have the same hype as Lamine Yamal or were people more cautious regarding hyping him up
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Well, that was the time when "hi5 and myspace were very relevant social media, YouTube and Facebook were the new thing for millennial kids, they weren't even that relevant worldwide yet (I am talking 2004) and "goal dot com" was still called soccerage, and forums were the dominant domains for football discussions.

Football manager was called championship manager, and only after its rebrand at the end of 2004 it became so popular worldwide.

So, for Messi there wasn't much hype around him. He was just another youngster you get some news about him, same way like Cesc and Pique when they left. It was just "barca talented teenager leaves the club" news. You got guys like Robinho, Ronaldo, Roony and Robben at the time, even Diego. older but young players that everyone talks about.

Barca had good squad that suffered many injuries in 04/05, and it was why Rijkaard called Messi a lot. But he didn't rely on him, we even bought Maxi Lopez to provide depth rather than relying on Messi.

The hype started in summer 2005, Messi dominated the U20 World Cup, and unlike Saviola who did the same on 2001, Messi was very young back then, he was eligible to play in the next World Cup in 2007.

So, 05/06 social media is getting bigger, forums too, and Messi is playing in CL and now he is seen Worldwide.

I remember back then Real bought Robinho, and he was supposed to be the one matching Ronaldinho, even had to make every Brazilian player in their squad to say that Robinho is equally good to Ronaldinho but is younger and has higher potential (it was cringe)

Then couple of months into the season, Vanderlei Luxemburgo, their Brazilian head coach said they shouldn't be comparing Robinho to Messi because Messi has been in Spain for years. :benitez:

Hype got bigger as years moved by, mainly because he was getting better, and because the internet and social media dominated life aspects together.

After Messi generation, and with FM and social media rise, there was a section of fans who became self described scouts. The likes of Ballotelli and Bojan probably got more hype in their debuts or before it, than Messi himself in 2004. Deulofeu probably got more hype online at the age of 14 than Messi at 17. I remember around 2007 there was this Spanish site called airfutbol. Those annoying cunts were hyping every kid that played in La Masia back then.
 
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