Joan García

[draconifire]

Why would he go to Madrid, Curtuois is still young for GK and in my opinion best GK in the world.

He woukd be great here, concidering Tek and Ter Stegen.

Best option is to get rid of Ter Stegen and Pena, leave Tek for season or two and sign Garcia.

We can only wish man. Only wish.

inb4 its the terrorist starting while Tek is on the bench.

 

[khaled_a_d]

No bro, there is no way you would word a contract that has a commitment in it that it will not be seen as a liability. FFP considers liabilities that is why the deferred salaries of players are considered when computing the spending caps by La liga. La liga spending caps take into consideration all your revenues( now and the future) and your expenses(now and the future). You can read that up for further guidance.

Without going into technical details, the Financial standards(IFRS1) defines a liability as any commitment to a future cash outflow. That is why a Redeemable preference shares of a company is seen as a debt instead of an equity for the same company even though the date to redeem the shares may be open ended or may never happen. So long as Barca makes a commitment to pay a certain amount in the contract, it is a debt. it will impact FFP(amount Barca can spend generally) immediately.

So that option is a dead end unless Barca somehow runs into a jackpot soonest. Even with that, it doesn't look like a new keeper is a priority for the board going by recent developments.

La Liga FFP doesn't work like that, however. And there has been consistent examples like that, including the players signed under the age of 18, like Diarra for example.

The same happens in UEFA FFP, with Liverpool and Mamardashville

 

[khaled_a_d]

My only issue with Chevalier is that he looks like he’s 1.87/1.86m more than his listed height @khaled_a_d

He’ll be more expensive also I think.

He is listed 1.89, but those aren't always accurate. Ter Stegen was listed 1.9 when he first joined. Sone sources list Araujo at 1.92 while official website has him at 1.88.

 

[draconifire]

He is listed 1.89, but those aren't always accurate. Ter Stegen was listed 1.9 when he first joined. Sone sources list Araujo at 1.92 while official website has him at 1.88.

Ter Stegen cant be 1.9 bro. He's a fucking midget.

I will eat dick if he's more than 1.83.
Fucking midget ruining the club.

 

[Gazzznigga]

La Liga FFP doesn't work like that, however. And there has been consistent examples like that, including the players signed under the age of 18, like Diarra for example.

The same happens in UEFA FFP, with Liverpool and Mamardashville

What are you writing, man? How else does La-Liga FFP works? I am all ears and eager to hear and learn from your own interpretation.

On Diarra, Barca had a pre-agreement for 1.7m which is a tear drop compared to the total liability needed to breach the La-Liga FFP. That is a completely different from adding 20m to the current liabilities for a club that needed a hurriedly agreed deferred revenue contract of seat sales and many court interventions to even register its first team players.

The same happens in UEFA FFP, with Liverpool and Mamardashville

Not the same, bro!. The difference is that Liverpool is not a financial dire straits like Barca. It still has a lot of headroom to accommodate contracts such as that. Simple!! Barca can do same if it has a lot of headroom to accommodate such a deal.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Ter Stegen cant be 1.9 bro. He's a fucking midget.

I will eat dick if he's more than 1.83
Fucking midget ruining the club.

Officially he is now listed 1.87

Ter Stegen | 2022/2023 player page | Goalkeeper | FC Barcelona Official website

A keeper with great reflexes and also excellent with the ball at his feet

www.fcbarcelona.com

What are you writing, man? How else does La-Liga FFP works? I am all ears and eager to hear and learn from your own interpretation.

On Diarra, Barca had a pre-agreement for 1.7m which is a tear drop compared to the total liability needed to breach the La-Liga FFP. That is a completely different from adding 20m to the current liabilities for a club that needed a hurriedly agreed deferred revenue contract of seat sales and many court interventions to even register its first team players.



Not the same, bro!. The difference is that Liverpool is not a financial dire straits like Barca. It still has a lot of headroom to accommodate contracts such as that. Simple!! Barca can do same if it has a lot of headroom to accommodate such a deal.

I've already explained how it works, and Roque was the same, he wasn't counted in 23/24 but starting current season despite signing in 2023.

He isn't listed against your cap space UNTIL his contract starts.

 

[draconifire]

Officially he is now listed 1.87

Thats it I'm booking a fligh and meeting this fucker.
No way this midger can be 1.87.

They're counting the hair too, I guarantee you.
Fucking midget mindset.

 

[Gazzznigga]

Officially he is now listed 1.87

Ter Stegen | 2022/2023 player page | Goalkeeper | FC Barcelona Official website

A keeper with great reflexes and also excellent with the ball at his feet

www.fcbarcelona.com

I've already explained how it works, and Roque was the same, he wasn't counted in 23/24 but starting current season despite signing in 2023.

He isn't listed against your cap space UNTIL his contract starts.

You don't know what you are talking about.

That arrangement is not new. However, it is counted as part of your liability immediately. Barca can not do that now for high value targets beyond a couple of thousands and few millions because of its tight financial situation.

A simple check of the La-Liga FFP rules and an online view of Finance 101 should educate you well enough to prevent you from all your wrong assumptions.

It should not be so difficult, bro

 

[Porque]

When we loaned Joey Falafel (or Joey Cancel, I forgot which), LaLiga didn't approve the buy option in the deal which supports what @Gazzznigga is saying.

 

[khaled_a_d]

When we loaned Joey Falafel (or Joey Cancel, I forgot which), LaLiga didn't approve the buy option in the deal which supports what @Gazzznigga is saying.

Cancelo was a player we were trying to register in the same season and La Liga considered it a way to overcome FFP if a player we buy.

Never mind it wasn't confirmed. It has nothing to do with what Messi983 proposed.

He is literally proposing the Roque deal we did in the same summer and it was allowed, because La liga itself didn't have to be noticed about it until we bring him and the sale officially kicked in.

It is a standard practice, I am not sure what is the fuss about.

 

[Gazzznigga]

Cancelo was a player we were trying to register in the same season and La Liga considered it a way to overcome FFP if a player we buy.

Never mind it wasn't confirmed. It has nothing to do with what Messi983 proposed.

He is literally proposing the Roque deal we did in the same summer and it was allowed, because La liga itself didn't have to be noticed about it until we bring him and the sale officially kicked in.

It is a standard practice, I am not sure what is the fuss about.

Again brother, No!

As of July 2023 when Barcelona signed Victor Roque for 30m+10m, his contract was considered as part of Barca's liability and used in calculating the FFP threshold for Barca. The only additional thing that came in January 2024 when he officially joined, was his salary. Even at that, the small salary cap that was used to register him was based on discounting 80% of Gavi's salary.

According to many sources, even 80% of Gavi's salary was not enough for La liga to accept the registration of Victor Roque, some Directors had to put in personal bank guarantees in order to register his salaries in January 2024.

Please take a read of the La-Liga FFP(officially called Economic Cost Control Rules in Spain), get the understanding first. I am sure you would have a different view after that

Messi for instance, does not have any contract with Barca now but he is being owed salaries from previous contracts. La-Liga considers that when computing FFP for Barca because it is a commitment, a liability, future cash-outflow expected based on past contracts. He does not need to be playing for Barca or registered by the club for La-Liga to include his outstanding salaries as part of Barca's liabilities and thus limiting the spending cap.

I guess what is missing in your post is the knowledge of how La-Liga FFP works otherwise its a pretty straightforward thing. Google works too.