Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Hence the third reason.

Atletico was never in the conversation anyway. All about Barca or Madrid to win it.

I agree that Real isnt at their best but away matches in Spain are always very though thats why im not surprised they struggle to win. As you said their squad is really strong, on paper stronger than Barca's team but their coach is far far worse than our man, hence i think Hansi is the absolute key for the success 💯
 

jormatar

Well-known member
Unless we fumble horribly the second half of the season, I would put him in the same group as Pep and Lucho already, even if we don't win UCL.

It's clear nowadays if you don't have money to spend on players you won't be winning shit against PL teams in UCL. The amount of money being spend on building teams have increased massively past decade. It is fool's hope to think we should able to compete just because we have the best academy in the world.

Once I see us spending 100M+ in a transfer window for players we have actually been hunting all along, I'm not blaming Flick or anyone else if we get knocked out from UCL. As long as that team is actually a proper team.

Even if Flick never wins UCL with us but still beats Real in domestic competition on a regular basis, he should be remembered as one of the best in this club. Because his work and development on players have been crucial when we eventually win that UCL with some other coach within the next decade.

Both Xavi and Flick should be remembered as the coaches who gave this team some credibility in one of the darkest periods of club's history.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Future might seem bright but we have a coach and a lot of players that are ready to win a CL today, albeit not a full XI.

It could be enough, or not. We will see.

That's the worst part. Some players deserve a CL in this side. But will likely miss out. Raphinha will become the modern day Rivaldo.

If we had a good not great team top to bottom then fine, but at least half the team is CL winner material, with 3-4 positions dragging us down like a barbell tied to our legs.

Makes all the talk and rumors about extending Rashford even more infuriating.
 

ToranagaSama

Well-known member
They better not buy Rashford unless he costs € 10M and gets benchwarmer salary. He's mainly there to give rest to Raphinha and barely scores any goals despite having strong shooting technique which is weird. So far his Newcastle game was a one-off. If he gave that kind of performance every 5 games then okay but looks like he does it 2 times per season more like.

We need depth of course but I'd play Roony, Fermin or Olmo out of position against weaker opponents on LW occasionally and buy a defender rather than splashing € 30M + high salary on Rashford.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
I think Raphinha will win the CL here

He is 29 and a top class professional so will likely remain world class until 33/34

I refuse to believe we are not winning the CL in next 3 years. Let alone 5
 

serghei

Senior Member
I think Raphinha will win the CL here

He is 29 and a top class professional so will likely remain world class until 33/34

I refuse to believe we are not winning the CL in next 3 years. Let alone 5

A lot will depend on how Lamine matures, or doesn't. Don't think it's a given at all. Other teams won't stand still. Depends on how much we can improve our finances really.

We will soon need a 9, we need one top quality CB and a top quality fullback also. But in the end it's just another title. Maradona and Il Fenomeno never won the European Cup or the Champions League. It depends on luck also.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
You're not winning a CL with our horrible back four. I don't care if you're Cruyff or Pep, you just can't allow a player like Vinicius to dribble through the entire defense multiple times. Only Messi and Maradona get a pass for that.
 
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MonteCuler

Well-known member
You're not winning a CL with our horrible back four. I don't care if you're Cruyff or Pep, you just can't allow a player like Vinicius to dribble through the entire defense multiple times. Only Messi and Maradona get a pass for that.
He didn't dribble past entire defense though. That's just overestimating his goal

he dribbled past Kounde who's a shit defender and then past Cubarsi who seemingly didn't really put much effort into stopping him either
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
There's no way we can win the CL with this defense as others have said.

The CBs are simply not good enough. Balde is underwhelming and the Kounde discourse is kind of driving me crazy because he's simply not been good enough defensively long before last night.

We need some pace and size in the backline. The only player we have like that literally plays against us.
 

GloryHunter 007

Road to 1000
There's no way we can win the CL with this defense as others have said.

The CBs are simply not good enough. Balde is underwhelming and the Kounde discourse is kind of driving me crazy because he's simply not been good enough defensively long before last night.

We need some pace and size in the backline. The only player we have like that literally plays against us.
But it you get a good draw and get 1 hard team after 1/4...
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
You're not winning a CL with our horrible back four. I don't care if you're Cruyff or Pep, you just can't allow a player like Vinicius to dribble through the entire defense multiple times. Only Messi and Maradona get a pass for that.
Vini probably has about 20-30 goals like that in his career. It’s one of the things he is elite at despite a high error rate.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
That's the worst part. Some players deserve a CL in this side. But will likely miss out. Raphinha will become the modern day Rivaldo.
Raphinha ain't no Rivaldo, Maradona, R9 or even Di Maria(these are all the comparisons that I've seen today on the forum). Nobody will cry if he misses out on a CL, he'll barely be remembered in the long run anyway.
 

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