Hans-Dieter Flick

[malvolio]

Yeah, as if the keeper that had a superb game vs us in the semis didn't cost 6m.

Same keeper who shipped 6 against us? Tek shipped 7 but was free. What's your point here?

Yamal places better his shots and Sommer ships 8.

 

[serghei]

Same keeper who shipped 6 against us? Tek shipped 7 but was free. What's your point here?

Yamal places better his shots and Sommer ships 8.

Yeah, shipped 6 and had some 5-6 top saves. Tek shipped 7 and had no top saves.

Let me put it like this, if Stegen played for Inter, they would have shipped in 8-9 goals easily. Or Tek, the upgrade from Stegen to Tek has been minimal, despite initial impressions. Tek made 0 saves vs Inter that Stegen couldn't have made also.

 

[malvolio]

So its Copium

We absolutely need a GK. Now, if the board would spend on it, is another question.

No, we don't with our current finances. We could have won a treble with Pena and a retired Tek, go figure.

GK quality won't save you if youare shit. Shipping lots of goals regardless of opposition is not a GK quality thing.

 

[serghei]

Of course a top keeper saves you. Inter were bad defensively, Sommer saved 2-3 goals on his own.

 

[DonAK]

We definitely need a better GK, and there's one available literally in the city right now. A better GK won't save your entire defence, but one or two saves could change a tie for sure.

Barca are in a strong position to leverage ter Stegen, a 33 years old GK with multiple knee injuries the last seasons btw, to move out if he want to be Germany's #1.

I don't particularly care for Tek either and wouldn't mind if they moved on from both.

Signing someone like Joan Garcia for 25m isn't a big deal if you move ter Stegen and his big salary. It's a move that actually makes a tonne of sense both financially and sporting-wise as well.

 

[malvolio]

Yeah, shipped 6 and had some 5-6 top saves. Tek shipped 7 and had no top saves.

Let me put it like this, if Stegen played for Inter, they would have shipped in 8-9 goals easily. Or Tek, the upgrade from Stegen to Tek has been minimal, despite initial impressions.

Again with this shite about top saves. Those were top saves because our players were predictable with their shooting. Reaction time was great for Sommer, but if Yamal puts the ball a couple of centimeters to his right or start shooting at near post instead of doing the same stuff every time then he can't doo much about it.

Your fantasies about Stegen 8-9 are just that - fantasies.

 

[ToranagaSama]

Wow, the hate for Xavi. Please let's remember what he took over. A team rekt 2-8 in historic fashion under Setien followed by Koeman finishing 3rd in La Liga with 70 something points followed by Koeman's 2nd season with 11 points in first 15 games after Messi left, well on our way to become Man United. Xavi somehow revived that team back into almost 90 point La Liga winners while promoting youth.

Yeah, some things were shit like Europa League results and some Clasicos but what did you expect after Setien and Koeman and post Messi during that period? To compete for CL and dominate big teams within 2 seasons?

The biggest difference so far is Yamal being 17 with Euro Cup experience under his belt instead of 15 and establishing himself as the best with Pelé comparisons and Rafinha scoring non stop but rest of the team and structure still is shady to say the least.

This is not a diss on Flick, he's a proven treble winner and this Barca is fun to watch but let's not pretend Xavi didn't do a lot of ground work to get Barca back up from a very dark time period as well.

 

[serghei]

Yeah, wijnaldum put the ball right at Stegen for 2-0 in the Liverpool game and Stegen conceded even that. This is exactly the mark of a top keeper, it makes strikers be more and more precise with their shots.

A mediocre keeper is gonna get beat even by mediocre shots.

 

[malvolio]

We definitely need a better GK, and there's one available literally in the city right now. A better GK won't save your entire defence, but one or two saves could change a tie for sure.

Barca are in a strong position to leverage ter Stegen, a 33 years old GK with multiple knee injuries the last seasons btw, to move out if he want to be Germany's #1.

I don't particularly care for Tek either and wouldn't mind if they moved on from both.

Signing someone like Joan Garcia for 25m isn't a big deal if you move ter Stegen and his big salary.

Bar first leg where maybe he fucked up for one of the corners, Tek or Sommer or Courtois prime wouldn't do jack shit for the rest of the goals we let in vs Inter.

Stop overhyping Sommer's performance when he was beaten 4 times in Milan and the other shots that he saved weren't really that great.

 

[serghei]

Yeah, and the tie basically depended also on Tek fecking up for a corner and conceded a cheap goal, and Sommer having an elite save at Garcia's chance.

Your argument that a keeper can't do much if the shooter is precise is useless. A mediocre keeper concedes the good shots, and also makes errors and concedes from poor attempts.

 

[malvolio]

Yk if we had Sommer or even Courtois for the 3rd goal. Maybe rn we would have been rejoicing that we are in Munich.

Based on what? Courtois conceded at near post from that Yamal shot in the Bernabeu. And he could actually see Yamal coming and also distance from goal was bigger.

 

[DonAK]

Bar first leg where maybe he fucked up for one of the corners, Tek or Sommer or Courtois prime wouldn't do jack shit for the rest of the goals we let in vs Inter.

Stop overhyping Sommer's performance when he was beaten 4 times in Milan and the other shots that he saved weren't really that great.

Okay, but what about the rest of the post? Or do you intend to keep a GK with a degenerative knee in the club for years just because you seemingly love him?

 

[serghei]

Margins are small. Tek saved no difficult shots, and Sommer did. The team that got outplayed but had a better keeper clinched through.

 

[malvolio]

Yeah, and the tie basically depended also on Tek fecking up for a corner and conceded a cheap goal, and Sommer having an elite save at Garcia's chance.

Your argument that a keeper can't do much if the shooter is precise is useless. A mediocre keeper concedes the good shots, and also makes errors and concedes from poor attempts.

Elite save? Are you blind? Garcia shot straight at him with his weaker foot. From that position he could have easily placed the ball left or right with his stronger foot.

 

[serghei]

Elite save? Are you blind? Garcia shot straight at him with his weaker foot. From that position he could have easily placed the ball left or right with his stronger foot.

As you said, any top save is the result of an imperfect shot. The problem is Inter had imperfect shots that ended up in our net. 3rd goal on Camp Nou is a cheap one to concede. 1st is saveable.