CL game 5: Chelsea - Barca 3-0

[jamrock]

But if he has stayed on most we would have gotten was a lucky draw because Chelsea certainly wasn't losing this game.

Still stupid to for that tackle while on a yellow though.

 

[ZenI]

Before the red card our problem was the midfield. Frenkie end eric gave the ball to balde and wanted him to resolve every pressing situation with a dribble against 2. Our defense (the last four players) was actually good, apart from the own goal. The problem here, too, was that the midfield and attack didn't defend well. I am sure we would come back if we hadn‘t get this stupid red card. When raphinha came on you saw that he will lead the pressing the next games and pedri will also change a lot.

I'm not a success fan and I stand by Barca even after bad games.

We would at least have a chance at coming back, we usually play much better in the second half. Rashy and Raphinha and maybe Olmo coming on would also change the game to our advantage. But as soon as a saw Ara starting I was almost sure he would get a red card in the first half, well...
We can't have that, we can't play him anymore in important games and he needs to leave in the summer. Enough of this BS.

 

[Messi983]

fake culer

Nope, just realistic.

Looks like I was even too optimistic thinking we'll be able to score, lol.

 

[TrueCule]

If Ferran scored that sitter at 0:0, the match could have gone different way. Chelsea played really well and deserved to win, the tactical setup from Maresca was spot on. I think we didn't expect they would press us higher up the pitch and that caused us a lot of problem. We're used to dominate possession and play against teams with low block but this match was totally different.

I'm not worried about our future. We're 1 point behind Real on the La Liga table and we theoreticall still have a chance to finish top 8 in CL league table. We should win all remaining matches in the CL (Frankfurt, Slavia, Copenhagen), so I expect 9/9 points out of these matches. We currently have 7 points and if we win the remaining 3 matches, we'll have 16 points, which might be enough for a top 8 finish.

 

[serghei]

That first yellow was ridiculous though. You make a rule that only the captain can communicate to the referee, and then when he does, you give him a yellow. It's inane.

That second yellow though, so stupid so early in the game. But then it's Araujo, the gift that keeps on giving.

He's also very big and quite strong. So... he has the muscle to make us pay for his pea brain of his. Big and dumb is one of the combos I try to avoid in day to day life. In football it's the same.

If his body would pump more blood into that head of his and oxygenate his brain at a comparable level to his limbs, we'd have a good player.

 

[malvolio]

If Ferran scored that sitter at 0:0, the match could have gone different way. Chelsea played really well and deserved to win, the tactical setup from Maresca was spot on. I think we didn't expect they would press us higher up the pitch and that caused us a lot of problem. We're used to dominate possession and play against teams with low block but this match was totally different.

I'm not worried about our future. We're 1 point behind Real on the La Liga table and we theoreticall still have a chance to finish top 8 in CL league table. We should win all remaining matches in the CL (Frankfurt, Slavia, Copenhagen), so I expect 9/9 points out of these matches. We currently have 7 points and if we win the remaining 3 matches, we'll have 16 points, which might be enough for a top 8 finish.

We had the same scenario of getting a gift from the opposition in the PSG game. Only difference then was that Rashford finished his meal unlike Ferran. Guess what happened in the end? They beat us easily.

Flick's football is too much momentum driven and dependant on our finishing.

Worried about future? La Liga is a weak league where we can appear stronger than we really are. Madrid are still wobbly and looking for form, the rest of the teams are shit.

We have no chance at CL with the current squad and football that we play.

 

[Barcaman]

La Liga is pretty good considering lack of investment. Teams generally play solid football and rely plenty on home players.

When you compare it to obscene money Premiership gets, it's not that great but still holds up well. Same goes when you compare make/shift back line from broke Barca to clubs that invest hundred million each year. And then expect those players to be world class.

This game would have been much different 11-11. Chelsea in no way capable to sustain 1st half intensity and we've seen even La Liga teams force us on the ropes in first halves only to eventually tire and we overwhelm them.

We have players we have because we couldn't afford better. Barca only paid money for Kounde in that back-line.
Expectations need to be adjusted and mistakes accepted.

 

[behindbrowneyes]

Stamford Bridge historically has been a tough floor for Barça teams. Even for better Barça teams than the fielded yesterday. Chelsea are not second in Prem for no reason. Do you think PSG went all their way to the CWC final just to lose to Chelsea because PSG did not care about winning? This Chelsea team is strong.

Without Inigo and Raphinha this team lacks leaders. Inigo has been a mentality monster at the back and Raphinha up front.

I think the team will improve as the season evolves, but I hope there will be a reinforcement in winter in form of a CB.

As for CL, 7 points after 5 games is pretty bad and less than most of us expected. I think the team will place as a seeded team in the playoffs.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Next CL game vs Frankfurt, dont underrate them guys, we lost 2-3 vs them in 2022

 

[Max13]

Just short comment.
Firstly, Chelsea dominated with physicality, dynamism, and speed. Secondly, Barca's play was very slow. de Jong moved the ball as slowly as the old boys. Thirdly, a loss of teamwork – Yamal seems to be playing "to himself." Fourthly, a lack of tactical adaptation to Chelsea's style of play.

 

[ZenI]

It's simple really, this was AGAIN 100% on Ara (and some blame goes to Flick for playing him). We usually play much better in the second half - Flick would make some subs (Rashy, Raphinha, Olmo). But Ara fucked us AGAIN. I turned off the TV when he got his red card, no point in watching anymore - a whole half one man down away at Chelsea, yeah no way...

 

[serghei]

The importance of having huge funds can't be understated. Yes, probably Enzo doesn't worth 120m. But he is worth 70-80m when factoring in his age, his mentality and physicality. So you pay extra 40m and get it done. Caicedo the same, Cucurella the same.

This is just like moaning about rich people buying great goods at super-high prices. Yes, the price is absurdly high. But even if the quality doesn't match the price, it is way over the standard of quality you hope to get at low prices.

If you can afford the price, the quality will make the difference. And if the price is not a huge problem, then this combination will create, in the end, a good enough outcome. Nobody cares about price except those that can't really afford something. It's like the old saying, you know you're rich enough when you can walk into any restaurant you please, no matter how luxurious, without giving a second's thought for the bill.

That's the equation of the rich teams, and it works. A good manager, big funds, sure it will not lead to some era defining output without an elite academy, if you're a smaller local club like Chelsea, but it will produce football-wise in the long run.

 

[jamrock]

The importance of having huge funds can't be understated. Yes, probably Enzo doesn't worth 120m. But he is worth 70. So you pay extra 40m and get it done. Caicedo the same, Cucurella the same.

This is just like moaning about rich people buying great goods at super-high prices. Yes, the price is high. But even if the quality doesn't match the price, it is way over quality you hope to get at low prices. If you can afford the price, the quality will make the difference. And if the price is not a huge problem, then this combination will create, in the end, a good enough outcome.

That's the equation of the rich teams, and it works. A good manager, big funds, sure it will not lead to some era defining output without an elite academy, if you're a smaller local club like Chelsea, but it will produce football-wise in the long run.

Resources definitely matter, that's just like.

Arsenal didn't stop spending and now they finally have a team that can potentially win the CL.

Barcelona can't do that with our structure even at our best, especially now with the la Liga rules.

We have to pick and choose years of high investment then go through 2-3 of minimal to balance things out

 

[serghei]

Resources definitely matter, that's just like.

Arsenal didn't stop spending and now they finally have a team that can potentially win the CL.

Barcelona can't do that with our structure even at our best, especially now with the la Liga rules.

We have to pick and choose years of high investment then go through 2-3 of minimal to balance things out

Our best doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's like life. You do something badly, spend 10 years of drug use, get some bad disease, it can impact you forever. So is the club. Nobody can guarantee that a disastrous 5 years in the club's life can't impact and affect the next 50 runnign on this ownership model. Under this model, it can. It can put you on a path of constant catch-up to previous problems.

 

[Haraldinho]

These guys dont have this so-called CL DNA. This extra motivation which helps you to not lose. To play better. Like the charrua in Uruguay.

When we are dominated we became kitties and totally lose our football. Impossible to win CL with that mentality. You need luck as well, luck is created by playing well and defending well.

The goal yesterday was a draw but these players could not manage any score.