Champions League 25/26

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Maradona37

Well-known member
You're obsessed with Rashford. What is the point you're even trying to make?

Pavlovic has 7 caps for Germany. 7. He's 21. He has less than 50 appearances for Bayern, with plenty of them as a sub. To even compare him right now to a seasoned midfielder like Rice is insane. And let's not pretend Germany are even grest these days. They've done absolutely nothing for years.
I am not interested in Pavlovic vs Rice. Just saying you're penalising Pavlovic for things that apply as much if not more to Rashy - and you don't penalise him for them.
 

Tyler

Active member
7 caps for the senior national team at 21 isn’t abnormal. His playing 90 minutes twice over the last international break speaks for itself.

And in one of those games he was subbed off against Northern Ireland for having a rubbish match. The other game was against Luxembourg.

Let's compare him to Rice when he actually has a few good seasons behind him in the Bundesliga and is one of the first names on his clubs team sheet like Rice is for Arsenal, eh?
 

Tyler

Active member
I'm obviously saying you should rate players consistently with the same criteria, regardless, and universally across the board.

Yeah but what criteria? It might be that I'm tired and have been awake too long today already, but I genuinely didn't get your point to be able to respond to it.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Yeah but what criteria? It might be that I'm tired and have been awake too long today already, but I genuinely didn't get your point to be able to respond to it.
You criticised Pavolvic for not being a Bayern regular, and not being a regular starter for his national team.

Rashford would get nowhere near Bayern team either, and was only a starter at a much worse side than Bayern. And he's 28, and STILL has never pinned down a regular place for his NT. At least Pav is still young.

So you're essentially criticising Pavlovic for things that apply to Rashford just as much if not more so, but not penalising Rashford in the same way.

Don't worry - I am highly adept at pointing out intricate flaws like this in people's arguments, and drawing parallels where the parallel is not obvious, so if you cannot keep up it's understandable.
 

Jair Ventura

Well-known member
And in one of those games he was subbed off against Northern Ireland for having a rubbish match. The other game was against Luxembourg.

Let's compare him to Rice when he actually has a few good seasons behind him in the Bundesliga and is one of the first names on his clubs team sheet like Rice is for Arsenal, eh?

Subbing players for being poor doesn’t happen in the 87th minute. What’s more likely is you’ve been talking out of your ass, don’t follow football outside of the EPL, and therefore are clueless to Pavolic’s progression.

Or I can compare them now because he’s better now. Hence his rapid development into a key player for a superior football club, and a superior footballing country.
 

Tyler

Active member
You criticised Pavolvic for not being a Bayern regular, and not being a regular starter for his national team.

Rashford would get nowhere near Bayern team either, and was only a starter at a much worse side than Bayern. And he's 28, and STILL has never pinned down a regular place for his NT. At least Pav is still young.

So you're essentially criticising Pavlovic for things that apply to Rashford just as much if not more so, but not penalising Rashford in the same way.

Don't worry - I am highly adept at pointing out intricate flaws like this in people's arguments, and drawing parallels where the parallel is not obvious, so if you cannot keep up it's understandable.

Rashford would though. Gnabry still gets lots of game time and Rashford is on that level. He would easily be a rotation player. He would also score more goals over the season than the extremely wasteful Luis Diaz if he started on the left.

I get that Pavlovic is young, but that's my point. He's a youngster still learning the game and only just starting to make a name for himself for his club and country. Rice has been quality for years now and is one of the first names on the team sheet for Arsenal and England. He's comfortably clear of Pavlovic as of right now. In 3 or 4 years time, who knows?
 

Tyler

Active member
Subbing players for being ass doesn’t happen in the 87th minute. What’s more likely is you’ve been talking out of your ass, don’t follow football outside of the EPL, and therefore are clueless to Pavolic’s progression.

Or I can compare them now because he’s better now. Hence his development into a key player for a superior football club, and a superior footballing country.

I watched the game (and he was dog shit) while you were sat in your Mum's basement jerking off over your posters of Luis Enrique.

Get off the crack and seek help for yourself asap, nerd.
 

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