Champions League 25/26

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Tyler

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Jair Ventura said:
He played 90 minutes twice for Germany over the last international break
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So at 21 he won his 6th and 7th cap. Brilliant. Now compare with Bellingham who at 22 has won not too far off 50 caps for his country. A country that has been doing considerably better than Germany over the last 10 years because it's far stronger.
 
Jair Ventura

Jair Ventura

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Tyler said:
Not really. Pavlovic isn't better than Rice and that's all there is to it. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could be, but nobody can say for sure. Not every player improves season upon season. Then you can obviously have bad luck with injuries.

I actually follow the Bundesliga more than the Premier League, and League One in England more than the Premier league. Am I somehow super biased to England because I highly rate Kane and Palmer? Or think that Rashford will do better for Barcelona than some would have predicted? I dont see it.
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It’s seems lost on you that being a regular for Bayern speaks more to a players quality than being a regular for Arsenal
 
Jair Ventura

Jair Ventura

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Tyler said:
So at 21 he won his 6th and 7th cap. Brilliant. Now compare with Bellingham who at 22 has won not too far off 50 caps for his country. A country that has been doing considerably better than Germany over the last 10 years.
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You claimed he wasn’t a regular when he is. I don’t know why you’re deflecting to Bellingham, Straw Man.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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Tyler said:
Not really. Pavlovic isn't better than Rice and that's all there is to it. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could be, but nobody can say for sure. Not every player improves season upon season. Then you can obviously have bad luck with injuries.

I actually follow the Bundesliga more than the Premier League, and League One in England more than the Premier League. Am I somehow super biased to England because I highly rate Kane and Palmer? Or think that Rashford will do better for Barcelona than some would have predicted? I dont see it.
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My contention is that Pav isn't better now, but might be in future. On that we align.

I also agree with you on most English players - it's more your ultra positive slant than the fact you rate them.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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Tyler said:
You're obsessed with Rashford. What is the point you're even trying to make?

Pavlovic has 7 caps for Germany. 7. He's 21. He has less than 50 appearances for Bayern, with plenty of them as a sub. To even compare him right now to a seasoned midfielder like Rice is insane. And let's not pretend Germany are even grest these days. They've done absolutely nothing for years.
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I am not interested in Pavlovic vs Rice. Just saying you're penalising Pavlovic for things that apply as much if not more to Rashy - and you don't penalise him for them.
 
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Tyler

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Jair Ventura said:
7 caps for the senior national team at 21 isn’t abnormal. His playing 90 minutes twice over the last international break speaks for itself.
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And in one of those games he was subbed off against Northern Ireland for having a rubbish match. The other game was against Luxembourg.

Let's compare him to Rice when he actually has a few good seasons behind him in the Bundesliga and is one of the first names on his clubs team sheet like Rice is for Arsenal, eh?
 
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