Champions League 25/26

[Tyler]

I'm obviously saying you should rate players consistently with the same criteria, regardless, and universally across the board.

Yeah but what criteria? It might be that I'm tired and have been awake too long today already, but I genuinely didn't get your point to be able to respond to it.

 

[Maradona37]

Yeah but what criteria? It might be that I'm tired and have been awake too long today already, but I genuinely didn't get your point to be able to respond to it.

You criticised Pavolvic for not being a Bayern regular, and not being a regular starter for his national team.

Rashford would get nowhere near Bayern team either, and was only a starter at a much worse side than Bayern. And he's 28, and STILL has never pinned down a regular place for his NT. At least Pav is still young.

So you're essentially criticising Pavlovic for things that apply to Rashford just as much if not more so, but not penalising Rashford in the same way.

Don't worry - I am highly adept at pointing out intricate flaws like this in people's arguments, and drawing parallels where the parallel is not obvious, so if you cannot keep up it's understandable.

 

[Jair Ventura]

And in one of those games he was subbed off against Northern Ireland for having a rubbish match. The other game was against Luxembourg.

Let's compare him to Rice when he actually has a few good seasons behind him in the Bundesliga and is one of the first names on his clubs team sheet like Rice is for Arsenal, eh?

Subbing players for being poor doesn’t happen in the 87th minute. What’s more likely is you’ve been talking out of your ass, don’t follow football outside of the EPL, and therefore are clueless to Pavolic’s progression.

Or I can compare them now because he’s better now. Hence his rapid development into a key player for a superior football club, and a superior footballing country.

 

[Tyler]

You criticised Pavolvic for not being a Bayern regular, and not being a regular starter for his national team.

Rashford would get nowhere near Bayern team either, and was only a starter at a much worse side than Bayern. And he's 28, and STILL has never pinned down a regular place for his NT. At least Pav is still young.

So you're essentially criticising Pavlovic for things that apply to Rashford just as much if not more so, but not penalising Rashford in the same way.

Don't worry - I am highly adept at pointing out intricate flaws like this in people's arguments, and drawing parallels where the parallel is not obvious, so if you cannot keep up it's understandable.

Rashford would though. Gnabry still gets lots of game time and Rashford is on that level. He would easily be a rotation player. He would also score more goals over the season than the extremely wasteful Luis Diaz if he started on the left.

I get that Pavlovic is young, but that's my point. He's a youngster still learning the game and only just starting to make a name for himself for his club and country. Rice has been quality for years now and is one of the first names on the team sheet for Arsenal and England. He's comfortably clear of Pavlovic as of right now. In 3 or 4 years time, who knows?

 

[Tyler]

Subbing players for being ass doesn’t happen in the 87th minute. What’s more likely is you’ve been talking out of your ass, don’t follow football outside of the EPL, and therefore are clueless to Pavolic’s progression.

Or I can compare them now because he’s better now. Hence his development into a key player for a superior football club, and a superior footballing country.

I watched the game (and he was dog shit) while you were sat in your Mum's basement jerking off over your posters of Luis Enrique.

Get off the crack and seek help for yourself asap, nerd.

 

[Maradona37]

Rashford would though. Gnabry still gets lots of game time and Rashford is on that level. He would easily be a rotation player. He would also score more goals over the season than the extremely wasteful Luis Diaz if he started on the left.

I get that Pavlovic is young, but that's my point. He's a youngster still learning the game and only just starting to make a name for himself for his club and country. Rice has been quality for years now and is one of the first names on the team sheet for Arsenal and England. He's comfortably clear of Pavlovic as of right now. In 3 or 4 years time, who knows?

Luis Diaz is a better player than Marcus Rashford, in my opinion. Though neither are that amazing.

Yes and I agreed Rice is better now. My issue was your laughing smilies, as if Pavlovic sucks. The sheer English arrogant dismisal, reminds me of the famous kevin Keegan quote before the 4-1 hammering of England by Germany in South Africa.

'In 3 or 4 years time, who knows?'

Yes, that is my contention.

 

[Jair Ventura]

I watched the game (and he was dog shit) while you were sat in your Mum's basement jerking off over your posters of Luis Enrique.

Get off the crack and seek help for yourself asap, nerd.

If you'd watched the game you wouldn't have lied about why he was subbed. You didn't even know he played.

You're only resorting to lame personal attacks because you've been called on your bullshit.

 

[Tyler]

Luis Diaz is a better player than Marcus Rashford, in my opinion. Though neither are that amazing.

Yes and I agreed Rice is better now. My issue was your laughing smilies, as if Pavlovic sucks. The sheer English arrogant dismisal, reminds me of the famous kevin Keegan quote before the 4-1 hammering of England by Germany in South Africa.

'In 3 or 4 years time, who knows?'

Yes, that is my contention.

Better player? Probably. Rashford without any shadow of a doubt would score more goals though.

 

[JamDav1982]

Subbing players for being poor doesn’t happen in the 87th minute. What’s more likely is you’ve been talking out of your ass, don’t follow football outside of the EPL, and therefore are clueless to Pavolic’s progression.

Or I can compare them now because he’s better now. Hence his rapid development into a key player for a superior football club, and a superior footballing country.

'Superior football country'.

When literally Bayerns best 2 players were made in England and the best German player moved to EPL and so far is struggling.

Poor point.

 

[Maradona37]

Better player? Probably. Rashford without any shadow of a doubt would score more goals though.

That's your problem - I don't rate who the best player is by goalscoring. Otherwise I'd find a clown like Lewandowski to be better than Maradona, or would think Lukaku had a better int. career than Gerd Muller.

 

[Tyler]

If you'd watched the game you wouldn't have lied about why he was subbed. You didn't even know he played.

You're only resorting to lame personal attacks because you've been called on your bullshit.

From memory they subbed off one player on 60 something minutes who had picked up a knock. Germany left the rest on the pitch for so long probably as punishment for being so wank against such a poor side.

No point me arguing any more with stupid anyway.

 

[Jair Ventura]

From memory they subbed off one player on 60 something minutes who had picked up a knock. Germany left the rest on the pitch for so long probably as punishment for being so wank against such a poor side.

No point me arguing any more with stupid anyway. I

You’re full of shit, and everyone see’s it. That’s why you’re upset.

 

[Tyler]

You’re full of shit, and everyone see’s it. That’s why you’re upset.

Now you speak for everyone apparently. You're really not that important, don't flatter yourself.

 

[JamDav1982]

How is Rice v Pavlovic this season to be gauaged?

Who has the better CL?

Who has better CL+World Cup?

Whats the rules?

 

[Tyler]

How is Rice v Pavlovic this season to be gauaged?

Who has the better CL?

Who has better CL+World Cup?

Whats the rules?

Common sense 😉

One is a player that cost 100 million and has been worth every penny. The other is a promising young player that's only just started playing regularly for his club and country instead of being a bit part player.