Camp Nou

Porque

Senior Member
Just watching a video about everton's stadium.

Initial expected cost: 300m pounds
Final cost 800m pounds.

And of course it was finished later than expected.

I wonder what the over run for the camp nou will be

Also had FFP issues and now spending big money signing CL players from Spain.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Stadium is starting to look more and more impressive. Now that the metal skeleton is almost complete and the parking area is inching closer also, my bet is we're gonna see more work being done on finishing and interior work. The renovated corridors from 1st stand look great. Bright, spaceous, clean, great work. Look like new.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Doesn't matter for Barca, as Limak signed a contract where they guaranteed the maximum cost and everything above they have to pay themselves. And it's not only the Camp Nou, it's the entire Espai Barca with rebuilding the Palau that will also host concerts and office/hotel area in front of the Camp Nou.

Camp Nou cost was estimated to be around 1b and the entire Espai Barca around 1,5b. It will obviously be more in the end, especially with all the delays, but that's on Limak. They agreed to Laporta's demands of a maximum guaranteed cost, that no other company was willing to agree.

I sincerely doubt that something that will be followed through on TBH.
 

Loki

Well-known member
I sincerely doubt that something that will be followed through on TBH.
Well that was, what was signed. Barca got a loan for 1,5b, they don't have more money to spend. If Limak starts to create problems for things they signed themselves, then their plans for the european market are finished before they even began.
They took on the project as an entry way into the european market to get the juicy contracts. Building the Camp Nou is one of the best ways to get your name known in Europe.

But if you want to use a project as an ad for yourself, you can't stirr up trouble over things you agreed on before.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Maximum price? Is that same as returning to Camp Nou a year ago? Or fine of one million per each day of delay? It's 30th of August and noone knows where Barca will play their home match. Mickey Mouse B team place or back at Montjuic. Talk about Limark building it as entry point to some market so doesn't matter how long the delay or whatever? What about enormous financial loss of not playing at home ground? Someone already posted how much is that per each game.

Dont trust anything Laporta says. He is a proven repeated liar.

And that's just shit related to stadium.
 

serghei

Senior Member
There is no real delay. Construction is working at a great pace. Delay is made up, because the club used Camp Nou return to secure some deals. They knew full well a 105k seater with all those extra amenities couldn't be done in 3 years. Impossible.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
There is no real delay. Construction is working at a great pace. Delay is made up, because the club used Camp Nou return to secure some deals. They knew full well a 105k seater with all those extra amenities couldn't be done in 3 years. Impossible.

Yes, they lied. Also, noone is saying it should be completely done. You missed on both points.
And no, they did not know "full well" or else they wouldn't be scrambling right now to secure a new venue nor would they made all that big speakers stunt back in June.

Truth is Laporta is winging it like everything else he does. He is neither professional nor in control. He can't control his own stomach.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
There is no real delay. Construction is working at a great pace. Delay is made up, because the club used Camp Nou return to secure some deals. They knew full well a 105k seater with all those extra amenities couldn't be done in 3 years. Impossible.
There are clear delays in the timelines given.

In no way is anything being done at a 'great pace'.
 

FCBarca

Truth
No question interior looks ready to host a match even though the section around press box and Gol Nor still undergoing refinements

Let's see what is confirmed on Monday but feels like Camp Nou will get green light
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Timelines given were not reasonable to me at all. 3 years full time with most of it being done while games are underway? Bollocks.

You cant say they timelines given are unreasonable and still just pass it off as all working at great pace.

Unless more deliberate lies that have no upside from board.

As already been pointed out it is not even the stadium completion that is a year behind what fans were told it is the first phase and before a fan sets foot in it.
 

serghei

Senior Member
You cant say they timelines given are unreasonable and still just pass it off as all working at great pace.

Unless more deliberate lies that have no upside.

As already been pointed out it is not even the stadium completion that is a year behind what fans were told it is the first phase and before a fan sets foot in it.

I already commented on the lies part as being part of politics of the club. I make up my own mind, and I knew before hand to expect a 5 year project instead of what the club said.

Based on my own expectations the project is moving fast. Don't care if some ate the donuts the club was trying to sell and now they are disappointed.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I already commented on the lies part as being part of politics of the club. I make up my own mind, and I knew before hand to expect a 5 year project instead of what the club said.

Based on my own expectations the project is moving fast. Don't care if some ate the donuts the club was trying to sell and now they are disappointed.

You think you know more about the length of time it was expected to take more so than those building the stadium and those who signed off on it from Barcas side.

The facts are it is a year behind what was agreed on and signed off on.

What you think is irrelevant really.

'I know best and those that believed the club are dumb'.

Were you claiming this at the time? Or is it just made up to suit a current narrative?

You have precisely zero qualifications to have any 'expectations' more than other fans how long it should take.
 

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