Yeah, but this points to a different conclusion...irrespective of the style of the club, you need legends like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, R10, Puyol, Alves etc. and Neuer, Robben, Ribery, Bastian, Lahm, Lewa etc. to win CLs. It doesn't matter if the manager is Jesus himself if the players are shit.
We both agree on that lol. I think you just like the consistency of Bayern results with their German style (most matches are evenly contested) while I like the AMAZING highs of Barca (when we peak, we annihilate the opposition and leave no doubt) and accept some of the insane lows that follow (the CL humiliations when our seniors are past it). Usually, the lows aren't more than 2-3 years (as after R10's peak) but Barto just made it worse and made it a 5-6 year stretch.
I am not comparing this to Barca.
I am comparing Bayern to Bayern.
In the late 90s and early 2000s, Real was the best team.
Since I was a Barca fan, I had to cheer for every single of Real's opponents in the hope that they won't win.
And back then:
If Real played vs Barca, they would win 2:0 in the end either way.
If they played vs Man utd, they would win 5:3 or 6:3.
The only option was Bayern, who were the only team in the world who had 50:50 chances against them and back then Bayern was unbeatable for years in Munich.
I especially remember 2000', Bayern was in the group stage with Real (back then we had 2 rounds of group stages and then straight to quarterfinals).
Bayern won 4:1 and 4:2 in groups and 0:2 and 2:1 in semis.
Which means that actually in that season Bayern had 12:6 goals ratio vs Galacticos (hailed as the best team of the century in those days).
Matches in Munich:
2000: group 4:1, KO 2:1
2001: KO 2:1
2002: KO 2:1
2004: KO 1:1
Back then, as a teen, I had some respect and fear towards Bayern.
They were good, they were strong, they didn't come to play fancy football or get Youtube followers, they came to "execute" you in football terms.
But also, their players from those days like Kahn, Jancker and Effenberg, I was scared to even look at them. They had that stone cold look in the eyes like Jaap Stam.
They were always yelling, lifting their team and their eyes were always hungry and full of passion when they would score.
For example, look at this clip and their facial expressions:
And then, we have a current Bayern, who is similar to: remember Barca with Puyol, Mascherano, Valdes, Etoo as leaders and then we moved to Busi, Roberto, Messi, Pique as captains. Zero passion, zero fight, zero mental strength.
I feel the same for Bayern. They turned from a team whom you were scared to look in the eyes to a team who's leaders are Kimmich and Sane.
So, imo, they changed both in terms of mental strength, leadership and they moved towards Spanish style of football instead of their more lethal/direct/less fancy style which worked way better for them.
Runs in their blood.
