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What should the club prioritize


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jamrock

Senior Member
That's a daring statement, considering Flick convinced Laporta to give him this job based on his knowledge about La-Masia players. He prepared a big file about all the academy players, their strengths and weaknesses for his job interview with Laporta.

Anyone with a solid interest in Barca, can give you a solid list of the best young players in masia, someone who wants to be the coach even more so.

That's not that impressive to me, we have the most famous youth system in the world, the top talent names are all over the tongue of agents and scouts.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Anyone with a solid interest in Barca, can give you a solid list of the best young players in masia, someone who wants to be the coach even more so.

That's not that impressive to me, we have the most famous youth system in the world, the top talent names are all over the tongue of agents and scouts.
The meaning behind this is not to be impressed, but to recognize the statement: "Flick can't see talents" is just wrong, because he follows La-Masia closely. You could say that for Koeman, who was more often playing golf than coaching barca and how he was almost never seen visiting the B-team games, but you can't say that about Flick, because it's false.

And if you make this statement, then underline it with specific names of talents, he didn't recognize and missed out on. From his Bayern time too if that helps.
 

jormatar

Active member
What does Casado do that our other 10 midfielders can't do? I'm sure Flick sees that he is a good player, although extremely short and slow which itself is a bad combination. But the fact is we need that extra money for registrations and to fulfill gaps in other areas of our squad so putting Casado on the market makes sense to see if there is a reasonable offer for him.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The meaning behind this is not to be impressed, but to recognize the statement: "Flick can't see talents" is just wrong, because he follows La-Masia closely. You could say that for Koeman, who was more often playing golf than coaching barca and how he was almost never seen visiting the B-team games, but you can't say that about Flick, because it's false.

And if you make this statement, then underline it with specific names of talents, he didn't recognize and missed out on. From his Bayern time too if that helps.

His time at Bayern is well documented and has been spoken about on here multiple times as it relates to players he wanted to sign vs who the club wanted and let's just say it does look good, one of the reasons he left, not the only reason of course.

Google it if you want the answer or search the trend.

While here he's rated dom who is shit

Martin who is average af.

Sees Toni, dro and the German kid, don't remember his name, as being bigger talents than guille, which no chance all 3 are better than gullie, in fact I would go so far as to say none are. Every youth coach at Barca will tell you that.

Kim who has no future at the club

The only thing he has on his side as it relates to talent in masia is casado, who the club told him to bring on tour, due to his age and loyality to the club and who he only played because he has no other choice.

So until he identifies a player and brings him into the team and that player excels my point stands.

Toni is that test for him, because he's the only that saw something in Toni, when the club thought it was guille, if he comes good and is better than guille in the end, he'll he proved right.

Edit also to be fair if he keeps casado this season and have him play an active role, he'll get massive credit for that, we'll see.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Xavi was choosing Romeu and Christensen ahead of giving Casado on minute at DM.

Casado himself has spoken of how a conversation with Flick kept him believing had chance at club after next to nothing under Xavi.

Flick is the one who promoted and played him and wanted him to stay even before Bernal injury and rated him higher than likes of Xavi ever did.

Flick also gave Bernal minutes.. again when Xavi chose to give Romeu and Christensen more in there.

Also gave Gerard minutes.. who is an average player but they let Valle go to keep him and as it stands the correct decision.

Gave more minutes to Torre than any other coach also while debuts to many other young players.

Flick has never rated likes of Darvich ahead of Guille and he is gone from club anyway.

If watched Atletic side last season Guille was not all that great and still learning. He didnt deserve minutes and also he is in one of most congested areas of team to get minutes even if he was playing to level.

Flick in one little over season has given increased minutes to Casado, Bernal and Gerard while debut minutes to Toni, Jofre etc.
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude

I dont know how creadible this is, but I hope its true.
He at least looks the profile we should be aiming for, rather than that other Brazilian kid. Could be a nice Big Dom replacement.
 

Jozh

Member
Personal wish of mine but I wish Barca bought more from Ligue 1, in my opinion it is probably the best league for platforming and generating talents based on how much it marries the physical and technical side of the game. Obviously not everyone will bang, but that league's personality helps alot with emerging talent.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Villarreal signing Renato Veiga from Chelsea for 29,5m.

Chelsea signed Veiga last season for 14m, loaned him straight out for the season for a 4m loan fee and now sold to Villarreal for just under 30m. That's 20m flip in a year. Looks good in isolation.

I'll tell you what is happening here though. Chelsea is running a human import/export business working on high cashflow and lovely commissions for everyone involved.

Villarreal arn't paying anything for Veiga (whether he is worth 29,5 or not is another question). Chelsea signed Jorgensen and Nico Jackson the past two summers from Villarreal for 60m. Villarreal are just deducting the 29,5m from what is still owed on these transfer fees.

Looks good on the books, but you see alot of Chelsea's deals are with the clubs they have already bought players from. A very american merry go around.

As Iron Sheik used to say, Fuck the Chelsea.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Villarreal signing Renato Veiga from Chelsea for 29,5m.

Chelsea signed Veiga last season for 14m, loaned him straight out for the season for a 4m loan fee and now sold to Villarreal for just under 30m. That's 20m flip in a year. Looks good in isolation.

I'll tell you what is happening here though. Chelsea is running a human import/export business working on high cashflow and lovely commissions for everyone involved.

Villarreal arn't paying anything for Veiga (whether he is worth 29,5 or not is another question). Chelsea signed Jorgensen and Nico Jackson the past two summers from Villarreal for 60m. Villarreal are just deducting the 29,5m from what is still owed on these transfer fees.

Looks good on the books, but you see alot of Chelsea's deals are with the clubs they have already bought players from. A very american merry go around.

As Iron Sheik used to say, Fuck the Chelsea.
In high-society circles, we also call this: "Do the Bartomeu trade".
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
It doesnt work as one of those increased value trades as Villareal already received the profit when Chelsea signed their players.

Could be that Chelsea are still due payments for both players and Villareal agree to give that up for the player being signed but wont be the boost to Villareal and he will still cost them on FFP.
 

Titan98

Active member
Chelsea also makes very bad deals, for example felix, bought for 55 and sold for 30 one year later. Nkunku, barely played but bought for 60 and now want around 40 for him or mudryk
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Villarreal signing Renato Veiga from Chelsea for 29,5m.

Chelsea signed Veiga last season for 14m, loaned him straight out for the season for a 4m loan fee and now sold to Villarreal for just under 30m. That's 20m flip in a year. Looks good in isolation.

I'll tell you what is happening here though. Chelsea is running a human import/export business working on high cashflow and lovely commissions for everyone involved.

Villarreal arn't paying anything for Veiga (whether he is worth 29,5 or not is another question). Chelsea signed Jorgensen and Nico Jackson the past two summers from Villarreal for 60m. Villarreal are just deducting the 29,5m from what is still owed on these transfer fees.

Looks good on the books, but you see alot of Chelsea's deals are with the clubs they have already bought players from. A very american merry go around.

As Iron Sheik used to say, Fuck the Chelsea.
You're not wrong, Chelsea doing shitloads of irrational shit that doesn't add up on any level last couple of seasons...
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Chelsea made money on Felix going by reports even though paid absurdly high price which was most likely inflated deal with them and Atletico for Gallagher/Felix to improve books.
 

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