Barca Transfers and Rumors

What should the club prioritize


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Maradona37

Well-known member
Those fans clearly are at loss here. I personally watch football for entertainment value but im not deluded.. one has to answer one simple question and all ideals will crumble.. whats the difference for example between real madrid and arsenal ? Absolutely nothing at all except the name. Foreigners being recruited and assembled randomly to kick a ball thats it. All the rest is just details and smoke.

The organization bodies could have done somethigng very minimal to keep the concept of " club " to a degree if they implemented some regulatory rules ages ago ( example: only 3 players maximum outside residents of the city , native or grown there ). Thats why the only kind of football known , relatively speaking of course , that i know of is atletico belbao. All of the rest is just an offspring of a marriage between capital and sports..

Bottom line i enjoy personally football for what it is and thats that. Im not an idiot
Exactly. I am the same. I love the actual game on the park, but I know it's a cesspit of corruption, and that comes with the expansion of the game. It was always corrupt anyway, but every since the money boom it has only grown as such.

People trying to claim their club is more 'moral' than another? That is naivety for me.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
There's no morals in football, don't kid yourself that there are.

Man United fans were doing their performative 'against oil money' with Man City and Chelsea for years - not because they have any ethnical backbone, but because they didn't want competition for trophies. Then, the Qatar bid came in and a lot of them changed their tune - suddenly, it was fine if they got rid of the Glazers. It didn't work out and all of a sudden oil money was the devil again - but the evidence is there in copious amounts on their forums. The internet never forgets.

Same with Liverpool fans - they act like they care so much about people in the Middle East. Do they bollocks. All they care about is that Middle Eastern money is hampering them winning tophies, the selfish cunts. They care about Liverpool's glory, and try to dress it up as a caring about the suffering of normal people in the Middle East. Quite repugnant that sort of virtue signalling.

Then Liverpool visit Dubai and have Arab sponsorship, Barca have worn Qatar on their shirts. Some of Barca's biggest legends have massive links to oil money (pep, Xavi, Messi). That doesn't stop people wanking over those players and coaches on one hand, while attacking Arab money on the other. Isn't that a bit fucking ridiculous?

I am not blaming anyone, but being against state ownership is sheer hypocrisy in modern football. It has its claws in so many pies that the only way to put your money where your mouth is is to stop following football entirely. But no way will people do that.

By the way, I hate the way the Middle East treats women, workers, gay people. I freally can't stand (for example) Saudi Arabia as a country or all it stands for. But let's not act like the West doesn't have centuries of bloodshed on its hands. Or that the Middle East doesn't prop up greedy clubs in the West. It has its tentacles in every aspect of the game.
 
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ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Leao for Ara swap rumors :lol: Totally fake news, if true I would take that swap in a heartbeat even if Leao is far from my favorite LW to sign.
Ara is nothing but trouble, cost us 2 CL's in 2 years - and dude can't improve on his passing or footballing-IQ... you either have it or you don't. He's a CB speed-merchant, that's it.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Nah changed my mind. Leao would be even more trash for us than Ara, lazy ass player... :lol:
But than again, at least Leao has a lot of talent - and Flick might be the right person to unleash his qualities regularly?
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
If only the Leao - Ara swap runors were remotely true... hell, I'd even throw in 20M. After getting a solid LW/RW rotation player our focus should be on selling Ara and spending it all and some more on a CB to pair with Cubarsi. I have zero hopes Ara will become "world class" for us, he's simply to braindead.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
There is big difference
Exactly. I am the same. I love the actual game on the park, but I know it's a cesspit of corruption, and that comes with the expansion of the game. It was always corrupt anyway, but every since the money boom it has only grown as such.

People trying to claim their club is more 'moral' than another? That is naivety for me.

There certainly is difference between club being owned by (local) fans and having some foreigner/hedge fund from another continent.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
If they sign a left winger, then Raphinha will definitely play as a false nine.

Ideally, of course, Lewandowski should be sold. If he stays, I think he’ll be the third-choice striker after Rafa and Torres.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Well an oil state is just a rich person. And whether VisitSaudi sponsoring is any worse than BP sponsoring is just a matter of perception and which side your values lie.

The bigger issue is an uncapped salary situation in European football with different leagues having different FFP rulings. The sport is too big and too internationally diversified compared to say NFL.

And of course Barcelona as a badly run fan owned model being most harmed by this. Logically a fan owned club not for profit club doesn't need to run at the same FFP rations as a privately owned company owning a club. This is just basics, but LaLiga measures the FFP the same for both entities.

It is what it is, a broken system.

If you strip away the necessity to protect the romanticized idea about football bellonging to tradition, culture, and community... and look it as purely bussiness, you need to discourage debts.

With a model like Barcelona's, it's a perfect recipe to accumulate debt with every single bad or mediocre president you have. Not even a President like Laporta is gonna reduce debt much. Because to make a lot of money in football, you have to spend a lot of money. Build a top side, pay high wages, sign top players, all of those key factors in being a successful club. The more successful you are, the more money you make, the more money you spend to operate at that level.

Oil states vs normal private owners is different only in motivation. Oil state is mostly just pleasure spending. Normal private ownership is still concerned with losses and future possibilities of selling are often on the table.

But the discussion is irrelevant other than the motivations of each type of private owner, money are the same and the financial tools are nearly identical. It's just that oil states have huge money so they don't really care if their football team is forever a source of spending, while other private owners still expect the club to not cause constant losses.

For clubs like Barca, Madrid, oil states are much more dangerous since basically they can spend and spend and spend, without any type of limit.
 
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Total-Football

Senior Member
The difference between nico and diaz is that diaz gives u the impression he can play LW or CF . Or going inside a la david villa even if he starts from the left. Whereas Nico is somewhat that typical , albeit very good, winger that spends most time in the actual wing. The two profiles are very different , but I think overall us as fans would be contented with either.
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
If they sign a left winger, then Raphinha will definitely play as a false nine.

Ideally, of course, Lewandowski should be sold. If he stays, I think he’ll be the third-choice striker after Rafa and Torres.
I think the club realised that we need a CF/ST this season. But having Lewa makes it a bit complicated. We also desperatley need a LW backup for Raph. And he'll be 30 in 2027, we will have to look for a starter LW then.

After seeing Raphinha output last season, and the type of a player he is, IMO club has rightly identifeid that he can easily slot in that False9/CF role with a LW beside him. And all the wingers we have been linked to bar Nico can play the CF role aswell.

IMO is the currect way to go. Enough rotations could be had in our front line to stay healthy for the whole season.
While in UCL I think our best lineup next season would be:

Yamal ----- Olmo ------ LW
---Raph--
With Lewa and Ferran gets the super sub and LaLiga lineup role.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
And let’s not conveniently overlook how a censure motion started by members led to the resignation of the most disastrous club president in our history - that doesn’t happen in the corporate world, bad leaders drive things into the ground. That can’t happen at ManYoo, City with Sheikh ownership or any other big club in the world. We are privileged

Club members resurrected it and we entrusted it with Laporta, 4 years later we are not just back but at the top again :cool:
 

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