8 - Pedri

[FCBarca]

I turn on my YouTube what's the first thing I see ESPN+ talking about pedri.

If Barca wins the CL or Spain the WC he's getting the ballon d'or.

Count on ESPN to arrive late to every topic where they aren't pushing a specific agenda, ESPN is the worst

 

[serghei]

His technique is not that far off, but Iniesta had several extremely high profile goals and performances that Pedri lacks so far.

Iniesta was a big leader.

 

[RedxMAK]

Not the current ones imo. Past great defensive sides could dominate our current team physically. Mid to late 00s Chelsea, Mourinho Inter, mid 10s Simeone Atletico. Far higher level sides than current Newcastle.

Bro it’s ridiculous to compare historical sides to now. I’m talking about now

 

[serghei]

Bro it’s ridiculous to compare historical sides to now. I’m talking about now

Yes, now there is not a defensive side around that can bully us physically. We can get beat by another offensive side though.

Football changed since 10-20 years ago.

 

[RedxMAK]

The midfield absolutely dominated Inter.

FDJ was the best midfielder over the two legs by a long way in both teams. He utterly schooled Barella.

Only so much can do when concede two corners and concede from both at home and then Araujo forgets how to defend in dying minutes.

Exactly, I saw de Jong played so well in the Inter game in Milan. He was so calm and I didn’t see any mistake from him in that game. Relaxed, calm and collective, he dominated the midfield and kept retaining possession while coordinating with Pedri. Shame a great performance like that ended in heart break, coincidentally not the first time he’s had semi final heart break.

 

[RedxMAK]

Yes, now there is not a defensive side around that can bully us physically. We can get beat by another offensive side though.

Football changed since 10-20 years ago.

Point is I don’t think any team whether they play offensively or defensively, can physically dominate and intimidate our players like the past. The team has grown so much over the past 4 years and I’m proud of the insane progress we made throughout the way.

 

[serghei]

Point is I don’t think any team whether they play offensively or defensively, can physically dominate and intimidate our players like the past. The team has grown so much over the past 4 years and I’m proud of the insane progress we made throughout the way.

Yeah, I get your point. But it's not only because we've grown so much, but also because other teams evolved in a direction that is basically influenced by Pep Barca. This is one of the reasons why managers like Mourinho are so washed up. Harder and harder to find players who are willing to throw everything into a defensive setup.

Hell, fecking Juventus ended up last two games 4-3 and 4-4.

 

[serghei]

To dominate a top Barcelona physically you need to go defensive first and be great at it. Extremely compact, low block, with great players.

Don't have these teams around atm, nor the personnel required or the managers. Most top teams around atm are playing positive football.

Chelsea, Juve, Inter, are unrecognizable these days. Their former power is now a weakness. Even AM to some extent is trying to switch it up.

 

[vegitot]

I think that direct dribbling came in time even with Andres IIRC but at 22, so much time for his game to evolve yet

Iniesta was agressive with his dribbling from very beginning. When he was young he tried to directly take on his opponents a lot.

Pedri lacks that quick burst to get past his opponent like Iniesta.

Though Pedri can still be more agressive/offensive minded if he plays consistently as a pure AMC.

 

[vegitot]

His technique is not that far off, but Iniesta had several extremely high profile goals and performances that Pedri lacks so far.

Iniesta was a big leader.

At same ages? I don't think so.

Of course Iniesta is one of the greatest big game player ever.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Some think Gavi is more important to Barca and Pedri can be replaces by La Masia player in few year.

Pedri is the best going playing deeper as always was said could be.

Some knew it and called for the FDJ/Pedri double years ago and was told not best for either.

They toyed with likes of Tonali and Bruno who folk over rate.

Rodri was good the other night by all accounts and quite quickly finding form.

Who says this? Pedri can't replaced. Gavi and Pedri are different type of players as well. Comparison makes no sense. They bring different things to the table.

 

[draconifire]

As a complete 3, PSG's Midfield is better than ours, but pedri is the best of the lot obviously.

But man I love that boy neves, can't believe they play him at RB for Portugal, how dumb can you be lol

I honestly think an on-form Olmo makes our midfield trio a level above PSG's.

 

[jamrock]

I honestly think an on-form Olmo makes our midfield trio a level above PSG's.

The thing about PSG midfield when they are clicking is everyone feels comfortable and can perform in any position in Midfield, it's very rounded, which is why they rotate positions so much.

For us only pedri of all our Midfielders can do that.

If olmo is left in DM for whatever reason as can example, everyone is worried, for PSG they all can hold that position if they need to for a phase of play or a few minutes

 

[draconifire]

The thing about PSG midfield when they are clicking is everyone feels comfortable and can perform in any position in Midfield, it's very rounded, which is why they rotate positions so much.

For us only pedri of all our Midfielders can do that.

If olmo is left in DM for whatever reason as can example, everyone is worried, for PSG they all can hold that position if they need to for a phase of play or a few minutes

I give you that. Their style of play & players playing them might be superior position to position, bar Pedri and maybe FDJ.

But as a whole, 3-man midfield, I feel like ours will always come on top.
Think we are more press resistant.
Better at creating.
Better at scoring thanks to Olmo.

 

[jamrock]

I give you that. Their style of play & players playing them might be superior position to position, bar Pedri and maybe FDJ.

But as a whole, 3-man midfield, I feel like ours will always come on top.
Think we are more press resistant.
Better at creating.
Better at scoring thanks to Olmo.

More creative, I would probably give us that to an extent, but they have better goal scorers, not high volume, but they all have a shot on them, with us we know how de Jong is in the attacking 3rd.

While they have neves scoring hat tricks, plus we know what the other two can do as well.

But overall creative, I get what you're getting at.