20 - Dani Olmo

serghei

Senior Member
:lol: La Liga temporary registered the players because a higher court forced them to. It's you two who have no idea what you're talking about. It's impossible for Barca to be deducted points if we use Olmo until the final decision is made, even if it turns out La Liga were right to deny registration.
 

companyofcules

Well-known member
The other clubs can fuck off. The decision defends the players not Barcelona.
So suing a player for working because some La Liga rules is like trying to free a person from jail based on the penal code from kindergarten. Secondly, the council already decided who needs greater protection.[ But your highnesses, slamming a rock in his head was punishable with kneeling for half a day, not prison!]
PS they ruled also a bit about the case itself, that's why the press from Madrid went bonkers.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
:lol: La Liga temporary registered the players because a higher court forced them to. It's you two who have no idea what you're talking about. It's impossible for Barca to be deducted points if we use Olmo until the final decision is made, even if it turns out La Liga were right to deny registration.

You don't understand basic stuff
No one will dock Barca points BECAUSE they complied with the Supreme Sports Council decision.

BUT many teams could potentially demand some kind of compensation/reparation THOUGH if
1) The final decision turns out to be that Olmo should not be have been registered from Jan.1st onwards
2) Olmo played in games against them where they lost point(s)

This is elementary legal knowledge in any Western law system
 

serghei

Senior Member
You don't understand basic stuff
No one will dock Barca points BECAUSE they complied with the Supreme Sports Council decision.

BUT many teams could potentially demand some kind of compensation/reparation THOUGH if
1) The final decision turns out to be that Olmo should not be have been registered from Jan.1st onwards
2) Olmo played in games against them where they lost point(s)

This is elementary legal knowledge in any Western law system

This will not happen. Demand compensation from who? La Liga is forced to comply with the SSC decision.

They will moan in the press and that's all they can do.

We will see if they will sue anyone because Olmo will play.
 

serghei

Senior Member
You don't understand that in order to sue someone for damages, the party you sue must do something illegal that does damage to you. Who did something illegal up to this point? Nobody. The case is ongoing and until it is solved the players should be able to play. Quite simple.

So, again, sue who for what?
 

Joan

Well-known member
You don't understand basic stuff
No one will dock Barca points BECAUSE they complied with the Supreme Sports Council decision.

BUT many teams could potentially demand some kind of compensation/reparation THOUGH if
1) The final decision turns out to be that Olmo should not be have been registered from Jan.1st onwards
2) Olmo played in games against them where they lost point(s)

This is elementary legal knowledge in any Western law system
Based on what?

The provisional order explicitly allows Olmo to be registered, meaning Barcelona and LaLiga are acting fully within the law. If, at some point, the final ruling prohibits Olmo’s registration, that decision will supersede the provisional order, but it does not retroactively invalidate the provisional order or Barcelona’s actions taken in compliance with it.

So while they might attempt to sue for reparations, their case would be dismissed outright.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
I don't give two shits about some of the clubs crying about the decision because a lot of them bar Bilbao decided to do Tebas's bidding and signed the CVC deal while we didn't.

Yeah, Laporta hasn't exactly covered himself in glory but Tebas is not immune to fucking up himself and there's a good chance he slipped up in this case and he's mad that he could potentially get exposed for it.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Based on what?

The provisional order explicitly allows Olmo to be registered, meaning Barcelona and LaLiga are acting fully within the law. If, at some point, the final ruling prohibits Olmo’s registration, that decision will supersede the provisional order, but it does not retroactively invalidate the provisional order or Barcelona’s actions taken in compliance with it.

So while they might attempt to sue for reparations, their case would be dismissed outright.

As I wrote to Serghei above, the matter is not complicity or non-complicity with the law by Barca
The matter will be (in such hypothetical case) sporting (maybe also) financial damage incurred during the time Olmo played against them.

The fact that there is a precautionary measure now in place does not invalidate such claim.
It can be made, and be sure: it will be made by many clubs.
(Remember two years ago when Gavi's precautionary measure was lifted and he played against Elche, where we won 4-0, Elche then tried to make a legal case of damage because Gavi played 'as a 1st team player'
the only thing that saved us back then was that Gavi was considered as having played as a Barca B player)

Think of this example:
There is a job opening in the public sector, many people apply, one gets hired. Another candidate thinks this hiring is unfair and takes the case to court. The court PRECAUTIONARY allows the person hired to continue work there.
After some months the court rules that the candidate appealing was right, and they should have gotten the job instead. That person can then demand COMPENSATION for those months, as he did not receive income he was liable to.

This happens all the time when there is (at least financial) incentive or interest at stake.
It doesn't retroactively invalidate the precautionary order.
But it does claim harm of interest during the precautionary period

It can happen, and it will happen, be sure, if the court eventually rules against us
 
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Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
Based on what?

The provisional order explicitly allows Olmo to be registered, meaning Barcelona and LaLiga are acting fully within the law. If, at some point, the final ruling prohibits Olmo’s registration, that decision will supersede the provisional order, but it does not retroactively invalidate the provisional order or Barcelona’s actions taken in compliance with it.

So while they might attempt to sue for reparations, their case would be dismissed outright.

Exactly. Also, wanted to acknowledge some of the top tier use of the English language in this comment.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
As I wrote to Serghei above, the matter is not complicity or non-complicity with the law by Barca
The matter will be (in such hypothetical case) sporting (maybe also) financial damage incurred during the time Olmo played against them.

The fact that there is a precautionary measure now in place does not invalidate such claim.
It can be made, and be sure: it will be made by many clubs.
(Remember two years ago when Gavi's precautionary measure was lifted and he played against Elche, where we won 4-0, Elche then tried to make a legal case of damage because Gavi played 'as a 1st team player'
the only thing that saved us back then was that Gavi was considered as having played as a Barca B player)

Think of this example:
There is a job opening in the public sector, many people apply, one gets hired. Another candidate thinks this hiring is unfair and takes the case to court. The court PRECAUTIONARY allows the person hired to continue work there.
After some months the court rules that the candidate appealing was right, and they should have gotten the job instead. That person can then demand COMPENSATION for those months, as he did not receive income he was liable to.

This happens all the time when there is (at least financial) incentive or interest at stake.
It doesn't retroactively invalidate the precautionary order.
But it does claim harm of interest during the precautionary period

It can happen, and it will happen, be sure, if the court eventually rules against us

It doesn't matter if financial damage happens if Olmo plays against them, because Olmo is eligible to play. So you still didn't indicate what exactly is the illegal part? The highest court that issued a decision in this case decided he can play, so he plays.

The illegality is... ? This is here you have to step in and make things clearer so a discussion can be had.
 

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