10 - Lamine Yamal

vegitot

Senior Member
Talent, great suff happend, but now he's more on social media and hype. Important games, he loses himself and he's invisible if Raphinha doesn't play. And that's simple, Raphinha isn't about hype and shit, he just plays and he want to play and be there. Yamal gone wrong, but who can judge him? Only 17 years and did stuff, hyped everywhere, got milions... If he doesn't go "on the ground" and stop be "insta boy", there is another shit No10 in Barca.
How can you be easily manipulated by shit media nowadays
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Yamal is the team best player and most creative one. If you want more chances to score then Yamal must have the ball and space.

Thing is Hansi uses Yamal too strictly as a hug the touchline winger. He can dribble from flank but every teams will put 2 or more players on him. Look how Chelsea effectively cut all pass to Yamal because they know Yamal's position.

Did Rijkaard use Ronaldinho as a hug the touchline winger? No. He allowed Dinho to move freely to recieve the ball and create the play.

Yamal is the same type player.
That's irrelevant how Rijkaard used Ronaldinho.

Back then everyone played 442, so our 433 was a revolution and teams didn't have an answer to it.

The same with Mourinho's Chelsea 433 in EPL.
Or later with Pep who has lifted 433 possession game to a whole new level.

So, in some eras in football some tactics are just way overpowered and you can dominate even without Goats.

In the current era of football there is no clear "Meta formation" like 433 vs 442 in the past since everyone plays 433 or 4231 for the last 10 years.
Or lately 3421 to counter 433/4231.

The new evolution in football is a faster version of Rijkaard's or Pep's football.
So, teams use the similar principles but with a more direct approach and trying to create quick transitions or counters whenever possible instead of our slow, sterile possession football around 2017-2022.

So, in numbers, it looks something like this:
1. if we'll play slower paced possession game with Yamal in the centre, we'll create 8 shots per game but we'll create weak chances through the middle, the opponents will overcrowd the middle area around their box and against stronger teams we will hit the wall over and over and struggle to stretch their defense and score.

Yet, Yamal will be on the ball all the time and he'll probably have more assists.
So, Yamal's individual stats in terms of key passes would rise but the team's results would decline.

2. on the other hand, if we'll play faster, more direct possession football with wingers who stretch the defenses, we will create 15 shots per match and better chances.

But, Yamal will be less on the ball in terms of passes and creation.
** but even Messi played as a RW in 2015.
When he moved to the center in 2016 and later, he has improved his individual stats and amount of touches but the whole team was less dangerous and we were easy to neutralize in central areas.

The era of dwelling on the ball through central areas are finished and the opponents have figured out the ways to neutralize it years ago.

About Yamal, he won't even get close to Neymar's level with how his career is developing.
He may end closer to Adriano or Robinho, and being finished at the age of 21-23 if he'll continue this way.

Further, athletes are on the peak of their pace till the age of 21-22-23.

Regarding Yamal's provocations on social media, I am seriously concerned that he will lose his mind in a few years.
Yamal seems to have Cristiano Ronaldo's syndrome.
He loves himself and talks too much.
But Cr7 was at least delivering goals in key european matches.

In short, it seems that Yamal has very high expectations in his head.
Yet his footballing skills, mental state, injuries, poor pace, opponents figuring him out = are working against his development.

His mental state might take a huge dip in upcoming 1-2-3 years and we'll see what will happen.
Whether he will become depresses, fight with everyone, asking to leave the club etc.

It doesn't look like a story with a happy ending in the future.
 
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vegitot

Senior Member
That's irrelevant how Rijkaard used Ronaldinho.

Back then everyone played 442, so our 433 was a revolution and teams didn't have an answer to it.

The same with Mourinho's Chelsea 433 in EPL.
Or later with Pep who has lifted 433 possession game to a whole new level.

So, in some eras in football some tactics are just way overpowered and you can dominate even without Goats.

In the current era of football there is no clear "Meta formation" like 433 vs 442 in the past since everyone plays 433 or 4231 for the last 10 years.
Or lately 3421 to counter 433/4231.

The new evolution in football is a faster version of Rijkaard's or Pep's football.
So, teams use the similar principles but with a more direct approach and trying to create quick transitions or counters whenever possible instead of our slow, sterile possession football around 2017-2022.

So, in numbers, it looks something like this:
1. if we'll play slower paced possession game with Yamal in the centre, we'll create 8 shots per game but we'll create weak chances through the middle, the opponents will overcrowd the middle area around their box and against stronger teams we will hit the wall over and over and struggle to stretch their defense and score.

Yet, Yamal will be on the ball all the time and he'll probably have more assists.
So, Yamal's individual stats in terms of key passes would rise but the team's results would decline.

2. on the other hand, if we'll play faster, more direct possession football with wingers who stretch the defenses, we will create 15 shots per match and better chances.

But, Yamal will be less on the ball in terms of passes and creation.
** but even Messi played as a RW in 2015.
When he moved to the center in 2016 and later, he has improved his individual stats and amount of touches but the whole team was less dangerous and we were easy to neutralize in central areas.

The era of dwelling on the ball through central areas are finished and the opponents have figured out the ways to neutralize it years ago.

About Yamal, he won't even get close to Neymar's level with how his career is developing.
He may end closer to Adriano or Robinho, and being finished at the age of 21-23 if he'll continue this way.

Further, athletes are on the peak of their pace till the age of 21-22-23.

Regarding Yamal's provocations on social media, I am seriously concerned that he will lose his mind in a few years.
Yamal seems to have Cristiano Ronaldo's syndrome.
He loves himself and talks too much.
But Cr7 was at least delivering goals in key european matches.

In short, it seems that Yamal has very high expectations in his head.
Yet his footballing skills, mental state, injuries, poor pace, opponents figuring him out = are working against his development.

His mental state might take a huge dip in upcoming 1-2-3 years and we'll see what will happen.
Whether he will become depresses, fight with everyone, asking to leave the club etc.

It doesn't look like a story with a happy ending in the future.
I don't need to look back at past meta, just watch Chelsea's coach moved Estevao (who?) to central more during the match to create numerical superior, while Hansi saw Yamal being isolated/tighly marked completely on the wing and made no adjustment to his position.

But you have Ferran, Fermin having more central zone than Yamal. That makes no sense.

I'm sure Barca 2005/06 would do great in even today game and Dinho would play same way. Because that how you used a player like him.
Also it motivate the opponent players....
Yeah he should say Barca are shit so opponent will lower their guard and easy win.

Be serious.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Getting obstacles and setbacks early in his career is important in his development. How he handles them, will define his future path. If they motivate him to keep working on himself, improving and proving everyone he's a better player, he'll reach the biggest level.
If he brushes them off as unimportant, blames other players or the team, he'll stagnate and become a typical "what if" talent. We'll soon see in what direction he'll head.
 
I don't need to look back at past meta, just watch Chelsea's coach moved Estevao (who?) to central more during the match to create numerical superior, while Hansi saw Yamal being isolated/tighly marked completely on the wing and made no adjustment to his position.

But you have Ferran, Fermin having more central zone than Yamal. That makes no sense.

I'm sure Barca 2005/06 would do great in even today game and Dinho would play same way. Because that how you used a player like him.

Yeah he should say Barca are shit so opponent will lower their guard and easy win.

Be serious.

No but he can speak more neutral


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Atm its too easy to beat Barca's offense, take Lamine out of the game and Barca's whole offense is dead, Tuna on wing should be plan Z, fullbacks are completely crap in offense, Lewy is still a top finisher but at his age we cant expect from him to do it alone, he needs service and midfield without Pedri lacks someone to play the final pass
 

jormatar

Active member
It should never be the case that for a team like Barca we have 18yo teenager be the main factor in our offence. No teenager prodigy has had this much expectations and pressure this early on. I don't think even Messi at the same age could have turned games like this around.

When we lose, Lamine always gets the biggest heat because people expect the most from him. Where is our veteran players responsibility? What did Rashford, Fermin, Ferran, Lewa etc achieve yesterday? To me it looked like they were far more invisible than Yamal and that is saying a lot.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
That Sanchez fella obviously took this opportunity to talk his shit

It's no lie that the shit ones usually talk the most. Haven't seen the real faces behind this Chelsea win like Caicedo, Estevao, Enzo etc trash talk but here is Sanchez, one of the worst GKs in premier league
 

Haraldinho

Well-known member
That's the sentence when you choke every big club you faced. We had to do something yesterday but impossible with these guys. I don't know what they need. Extra vacation, no CWC, good coach.

You did that in a company you are fired immediately.
 

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