10 - Lamine Yamal

[Andresito]

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If coaches needs a blueprint of how to get the best out of Lamine, they just need to look at the Argentina squad suited for Messi.

Lamine needs players who make runs for him in both attack and defense, similar to Messi.

Getting the right type of CF is very important for Lamine and the team.

Ferran does that.

Not only about type but also about ability

 

[te amo barca]

You need to have considerably higher output than Yamal currently has to build the entire recruitment policy of the club around him.

Messi was never injured and got 50 goals a season consistently. Yamal isn't anywhere near that level.

If Barca miss out on Kane/Alvarez/Haaland because they want to get a CF that makes decoy runs for Yamal, then it'll be a very risky strategy for the club.

What if he gets injured? Barca should try to sign the best in class. Should be Kane or Alvarez as Haaland might be out of reach. I'm sure Flick will figure out a way to fit those players into a system where Yamal thrives alongside these star players.

Alvarez and Haaland complement Yamal's playstyle, idk why you are making this seem like one or the other. Yamal's output will increase with each passing season, on average, until it hits peak level around 23-24 or so and plateaus for N years, with 1-2 freak seasons sandwiched inbetween

 

[JamDav1982]

This argument 'Yamal isnt Messi so dont build around him' makes zero sense.

No one is Messi and Yamal is on a different level to likes of Lewa if deciding who it is best to build team around.

Yamal had 43 goals/assists last season while not on pens.

This season he has 14 goals/assists in 12 games.

Dont worry about Yamals 'production'.

He is the player that every single team in world would take right now to build around for next decade.

 

[Temptation]

Alvarez and Haaland complement Yamal's playstyle, idk why you are making this seem like one or the other. Yamal's output will increase with each passing season, on average, until it hits his usual peak level around 23-24 or so

Haaland is out of reach. Alvarez will be tough but not impossible. Kane seems like the most convenient option financially.

And no, Haaland won't be a foil for Yamal like Ferran is. Haaland doesn't make decoy runs. He goes for the kill and attacks the most dangerous areas to get goals centrally. Haaland mostly plays on the shoulder of the last defender and gets in behind. The Haaland and Yamal combination can work but Haaland won't be making the decoy runs people are talking about. It'll work but not in the manner they are describing. Yamal will be Haaland's new KDB. Kinda similar to Messi and Mbappe's chemistry in PSG.

The poster above makes a very good point actually. Ferran is the guy to do that. If you want a guy with intelligent movement who can be a foil for Yamal, Ferran is your guy.

Harry Kane and Yamal both prefer the ball to feet and Kane loves to drop deep so there might be some sort of tactical misfit there but Kane is still the most gettable option for you financially.

I'm not convinced that Alvarez can lead the line as Barca's CF under Flick. I think he lacks some attributes required to be a Flick striker. Might work under another coach but I don't think he's the answer for a Flick system tactically. Great player though.

 

[serghei]

The team shouldn't be built around anyone. Pass the ball to the better placed player. The moment you slow the game down to give ball to feet to someone particular... you lose speed of play and teams know how to defend against you.

 

[Titan98]

Alvarez would cost about 180 million. It is not possible. But he is the best striker, for me better than haaland.
Kane is the only option financially but i don’t think he wants to change his living destination another time outside of england.

 

[JamDav1982]

Haaland would be infinitely better at CF than Alvarez for Barca but impossible.

Alvarez has never been in his career that penalty box striker and struggles at Atletico a fair bit when asked to do it as a lone CF.

Alvarez best position for Barca would be LW in role Raphinha plays or even AM in way Fermin plays it.

 

[te amo barca]

Haaland is out of reach. Alvarez will be tough but not impossible. Kane seems like the most convenient option financially.

And no, Haaland won't be a foil for Yamal like Ferran is. Haaland doesn't make decoy runs. He goes for the kill and attacks the most dangerous areas to get goals centrally. Haaland mostly plays on the shoulder of the last defender and gets in behind. The Haaland and Yamal combination can work but Haaland won't be making the decoy runs people are talking about. It'll work but not in the manner they are describing. Yamal will be Haaland's new KDB.

The poster above makes a very good point actually. Ferran is the guy to do that. If you want a guy with intelligent movement who can be a foil for Yamal, Ferran is your guy.

Harry Kane and Yamal both prefer the ball to feet and Kane loves to drop deep so there might be some sort of tactical misfit there but Kane is still the most gettable option for you financially.

I'm not convinced that Alvarez can lead the line as Barca's CF under Flick. I think he lacks some attributes required to be a Flick striker. Might work under another coach but I don't think he's the answer for a Flick system tactically. Great player though.

No one was talking about no decoy runs before you used that word. All was said was that Yamal would need more runners around him (instead of the immobile Lewy and Kounde). Willing runners into space. This "decoy" fixation is a niche thing not worth focusing on. Any striker is expected to perform decoy runs based on the situation, Haaland included, and he does that too.

 

[Temptation]

The team shouldn't be built around anyone. Pass the ball to the better placed player. The moment you slow the game down to give ball to feet to someone particular... you lose speed of play and unpredictability.

Yup. Also makes you more rigid tactically and easier to figure out. Will be found out in the later stages of the CL consistently.

Flick has the right idea with the attacking system he's building. It gets the best out of every Barca forward.

Football has evolved and it's more about the system on and off the ball than any individual carry job.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah every top team play in way to get best out of their attacking players.

Makes complete sense.

 

[serghei]

Yup. Also makes you more rigid tactically and easier to figure out. Will be found out in the later stages of the CL consistently.

Flick has the right idea with the attacking system he's building. It gets the best out of every Barca forward.

Of course that if a team defends deep you will look to play through the player with the most dribbling ability, but when in space... pass to the player that makes the run.

 

[te amo barca]

The team shouldn't be built around anyone. Pass the ball to the better placed player. The moment you slow the game down to give ball to feet to someone particular... you lose speed of play and teams know how to defend against you.

Building a team around a player does not equal pass him the ball in any situation ala Messi. We are already building our team around Pedri and Yamal. The best creators get the most touches, it's as simple as that.

 

[Temptation]

No one was talking about no decoy runs before you used that word. All was said was that Yamal would need more runners around him (instead of the immobile Lewy and Kounde). Willing runners into space. This "decoy" fixation is a niche thing not worth focusing on. Any striker is expected to perform decoy runs based on the situation, Haaland included, and he does that too.

At this point Kane is probably the most likely option financially?

He's extremely immobile.........

 

[serghei]

Building a team around a player does not equal pass him the ball in any situation ala Messi. We are already building our team around Pedri and Yamal. The best creators get the most touches, it's as simple as that.

It's not. The better placed player always gets the ball. If anyone is better placed than Yamal in more space, with more options you pass him the ball. You don't pass to Yamal thinking he can solve duels 1 vs 1. This is done when there is a positional attack and you don't have a better option. Then yes. Makes sense to force 1 vs 1s with your best dribbler. Otherwise no, it's a team flaw.

 

[te amo barca]

It's not. The better placed player always gets the ball.

On the counter, ideally yeah. In a positional attack, you are trying to get your best creators involved.