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Yeah, and it's generally the foreigners in the teams who run the teams. Bring all the English lads together and tonight is what you get.

I assume if you replaced Southgate with Pep, Rice would suddenly transform tonight from carthorse to Rijkaard. Southgate is clueless, but it is lazy and cheap to assume they're wank just because of him. The players have to take SOME responsibility too. Managers aren't magicians.

They made it to the final. They were outplayed by Slovakia and Swiss, and relied on moments. You're proving my point that the likes of Bellend is a moments player - invisible entire game then a worldie vs Slovakia. Ditto the Swiss - outplayed then score from a Saka hail mary, win on pens. City...

Shaw doesn't have any clear weaknesses? You have really drank the kool aid...how about the fact he's generally a fat cunt who can't even stay fit? And when he is on the pitch, he and United achieve what exactly? hardly gets any assist and is a black hole going forward. I don't care what Mourinho...

They are. Don't buy the English media hype. They make guys like Foden and Bellingham out to be Hagi and Rivaldo. They're a joke.

I will ask again Can anyone here provide an argument as to why Guehi or Maguire are better players 'on paper' than Laporte or Le Normand? Other than vague stuff about how well-known they are and how well they do in the Premier League? While you never watch the Spanish lads. Spain are miles...

This guy gets it. Forget how well they do in the hyped up PL with their foreign mates. They're TECHNICALLY INFERIOR to Spain all over the park.

Bellingham was poor the entire second half of the season and most of the CL knockouts. He's exactly what is wrong with England - a highlights and moments player, who will be invisible or dominated throughout a game, but can do something good in the box in the 2-3 minutes you are aware he's on...

I am not disagreeing on Morata and Kane, I am talking about how they play for their teams. If Shaw was England's best player then that sums up everything that is wrong with them. And on that note, did you see Cucurella this entire tournament? He played really well. The fact is neither of them...

'in terms of on paper England is surely better.' In terms of hype in the English media. In terms of technique, ability in tight spaces, being brought up to play the passing game, Spain piss all over them. Football is player on grass, not paper. FFS England have stunk out this tournament, and...

Why. Because you said so? Why is Le Normand worse than Guehi or Maguire (who always starts for England when fit). Seeing as you mention Cucurella, England's left-back is that fraud Shaw who has been omnipresent for Man United's decade of failure, and had one good season in 8. You're looking...

What you're missing is that the English players aren't as technically gifted as the Spanish ones, despite their hype. You're falling into their hype again. For instance, Zubimendi came on and instantly looked far better technically and when pressed than Rice. Who's the far more famous player...

Exactly. But it's Wio Ferdinand. He's a moron who thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi and gets most of his predictions wrong. Fucking stealing a living that adulterous cunt.

Exactly Also, what did I say about Rice? He struggled big time tonight. He has the PL and ' big club' hype behind him, but Ruiz destroyed him and is clearly superior. Arsenal fans are well know for overrating their footballers.

Rio Ferdinand still doesn't get it. PLAYING WELL IN THE PL AT SEPARATE CLUBS WITH FOREIGNERS NEXT TO YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU'LL ALL PLAY WELL AS A TEAM WHEN YOU ALL GET TOGETHER. He should know as the same was true of him. he's such an awful pundit.

Yeah I am a big fan of Kane as a player, but was shocked at just how bad he was in this tournament.

He was really good. Lots of good defensive work, beautiful in small spaces as stated above, lovely little incisive passes round the corner.

I agree mate. Southgate's negativity played into their hands. I am slagging them above but Southgate doesn't help. If he'd have started with Watkins it might have been different.

Spain simply play far better football and their movement, little give and goes and passes around the box were too much for England. England played like a lower league team in the FA Cup away to a PL team. Pathetic. So much for their on paper 'superstars'. Hyped up merchants. In saying that, I...

I like you as a poster but it baffles me how anyone could think that. They're hopeless at combination play and offer nothing but hoofs from Pickford.