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Yeah, it is so apparent despite England's hyped up 'names', that the Spaniards are miles better in terms of movement and positioning off the ball, and passing, touches in small spaces, linking up off the ball. They're been nowhere near their best but much better than England. England have...

Shaw is pretty decent defensively to be honest, but Lamine can still do him in this second half.

This is why I only turn on with a minute until kick off (or keep muted), and turn off at half-time, then turn off at full-time (unless the team I wanna win actually win).

Wait til you see Shakira and the 25 minute half time break in the Copa later.

Put 50 euros on England to lift the trophy. It will soften the blow if the worst happens. If not, you lost money but are delighted with the result.

Fantasy team for the final. Max 8 players per team.

I am a white, Northern European man. My phenotype, if you wanna call it that. I don't hate white people at all. I just don't hate minorities either (unlike you). I acknowledge that white people have often held down minorities. I don't feel guilty for that myself, as it wasn't me who did it, but...

The thing is, 'reasonable' to you means being as racist as you are. You want me to go around here calling people the n word and slagging off jews. I still like your football posts and agree with a lot of your football opinions, but there's no excuse for the derogatory terms and prejudice you...

LOL opened that after you mentioned me Givenchy (and cheers). I am not a Jew ffs :lol: I couldn't be further from a jew. I just have empathy for others who aren't like me, unlike Gnidro. He's spreading political rhetoric all over the forum. Keep it to Caffe Catalonia pal.

Sort of. I still have preferences for certain teams over others. I just don't get as flustered as a normal fan would. But I was delighted when Bayern eliminated Arsenal (sick of the Arsenal hype) and gutted when Real Madrid beat Dortmund. I know it is weird to favour Bayern in a game and...

I used to support Rangers, but then I realised as an adult they no longer align with my political views. So I stopped. I am not just gonna start supporting another club, so I don't support anyone. I love watching Man United lose though.

Assumed it was a dig because everyone is supporting Spain. Personally, I am not Spanish and I don't support Barca.

My excuse is I am Scottish. Though I can see why the team riles up the rest of the world too.

Nah. Just anti English NT.

But - as I said last week - at least we have someone to actively support here, a team we like. Can you imagine if it had been the dreaded Portugal-England? Ronaldo winning and lifting the trophy or England lifting 58 years of hurt. Truly lose-lose.

Yeah indeed. I kinda feel bad saying all of this and being so against them. There are two or three guys on here who are England fans. It feels like barcaforum is very anti-England NT, as you'd expect from a forum with few English people and which is based around a club in Catalonia or Spain. I...

Let's hope so mate. Let's fucking hope so. Some of us will have major egg on our faces if England spawn it. I said before the tournament they were overrated and would never win it. Now, I still believe the first part, but they might prove me wrong on the second despite spawning their way...

It just feels like one of them nights mate. Everyone expecting Spain and England spawn it, Man United style. If it does happen I will find it very hard to recover in time for the Copa final. If they win with a dodgy penalty or a dive I will likely be furiously googling til 8 am tomorrow and...

Fair enough. I know nothing about it. It seems like they're jealous he has contacts at big clubs.

Agree. That post is like a moth to a flame for certain people though, one in particular. He will be along shortly I expect.