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This is why people are repulsed by Bellend. Other players put in better peformances and are still criticised far more than the golden boy: 'Nope, the media unanimously adore him and despite being utter tripe this tournament hasn’t faced a single criticism from the English media. They have their...

He probably could have. He could have continued getting away with it as a second striker, because that suits his style of getting on the end of chances and living for moments. Now that he's gonna be tasked with more midfield responsibility, we are gonna find out he couldn't control a game if his...

Not to get off topic from how overrated he is as a footballer but, you think this is good looking? Take away the money and fame, give him a manual labour job struggling to get by, and he's rated as average, and even that seems generous.

He's a good player to a point. He has significant weaknesses in his game is nowhere near the 'potential all-time great' he's been touted as. He will never ever reach that level, you can see he won't. He's not good enough technically or tactically - he's a goalscoring moments player who drifts in...

So basically, he's rated most for reasons that have little to do with football? That's what i implied. Not sure I would ever call him good looking either (coming from a guy who has no problem acknowledging other men are handsome), but maybe some women like the way he looks. I am sure loads...

He's going to go further back, that is my point. Unless some of RM's new forwards disappoint, and he ends up playing further forward again. They're likely earmarking him to play in the heart of midfield with Camavinga/Tchouameni. I don't think he can play that role. Like you say they have...

Declan Rice is clearly better. He cost £100 million and plays for the greatest club in the world, Arsenal, in the best league in history. This guy is a donkey who nobody in England has even heard of. How good can he realistically be? If the English media don't rate or know you, you can't be...

That's just a symptom of people undervaluing the Spanish players. I'm not a big fan of his but he's generally ok and he's a better keeper than Pickford.

Anyway, I am allergic to hyped up 'doesn't the sun shine out of his arse?' cunts like this. Maybe if he was rated more commensurate with his true talent level, I wouldn't have to tear him apart.

'And if he develops the areas of the game he needs to he’ll be dominant.' It will never happen. Asking him to ever control a midfield or play like Kroos is like asking a fish to fly. You can't expect 'improvement' in something when someone doesn't have the tools to do it in the first place...

Nobody said he was crap. And it's not based on the final. I have consistently said he's overrated. he's decent, but the hype around him is repulsive, and he encourages it with his PR and attention-seeking. Outside of goal stats, what is he actually good at? Average first touch, decent passer...

He's got ability but as always, the United fans are building the poor kid out of all proportion. They do it all the time.

Yes. he's another Gerrard - labours under the delusion he's a dominating central midfielder, when he's actually a number 10 who can get chances or passes in the box, and who's best close to thereand well away from the engine room where he's an absolute liability.

' Pedri and Iniesta. The young players of Barca get hyped way too soon. Pedri struggles to last 60 minutes and has major stamina issues. Also very slow and weak, unlike Iniesta who was deceptively swift on the ball.' Has a point they're not that similar. But saying the bold on a MAN UNITED...

Also, you just know Temp is one of those lads who has an account on the forum of every big club.

Yeah he's only overrated in the sense they make him out to be a combination of Zidane, Pele and Messi. But he's clearly a good player. I am fighting back against the hype and exploring the weaknesses he has as a player. Unfortunately he plays for the devil's club and will likely continue to...

He has encyclopedic knowledge of how good Morata is in training. Respect.

Not really fighting big man. Admittedly I was getting worked up, but there was no real animosity behind my words, and the lads I was hotly debating with are good men. Sometimes it's good to have a bit of edge and passion - as long as it doesn't cross the line :p

Whisper it but he's another product of the Man United hype machine. One of the few football matters I don't see eye to eye on with soul24rage.

Fair points. What I like about Ruiz is he really took responsibility as the leader of the team and midfield tonight after Rodri went off at HT. Zubimendi was great when he came on also. Always knew Zubi was good anyway. Of course they've never heard of him in England so obviously Rice is ten...