Hans-Dieter Flick

KingLeo10 · 2025-11-25T22:20:36+0000

CL is definitely out of reach, but we should try to avoid a beatdown in KOs. That's unacceptable.

serghei · 2025-11-25T22:20:50+0000

jamrock said:
What did we do apart from that?

Chelsea put pressure but not much apart from that. Shots on target read 1-2 for a good while. Red floored us. Very similar to PSG game. Dominated, but until the red we were in the game and looking dangerous when we broke through.

Games of football depend on details sometimes. Torres scores for 1-0, we don't get down to 10, and it's an entirely different match.

jamrock · 2025-11-25T22:20:52+0000

For about 20 minutes minimum,I honestly came remember is going within 25 years of their goal.

Birdy · 2025-11-25T22:21:09+0000

Jozh said:
Please explain to me how subpar buildup, mediocre pressing don't influence a perfomance. Seriously. How are these the standards man, I do not understand, this Chelsea team is not good. We managed to make Pedro Neto look threatening bro, explain

At least as far as md and attack is concerned, he didn't have other fit players mate.
Simple as that

Now, if you wanna argue Christensen should have played instead of Araujo, I will hear that, but that's a limited discussion

PS: Chelsea show up in big games. Review all their big games under MAresca to see that

vegitot · 2025-11-25T22:23:40+0000

MonteCuler said:
We were getting outplayed after the own goal. I don't know what game you guys were watching. Do you remember the chat in first 20 minutes? Everybody was saying we play well. Should have been 1-0 up, and Fermin also had some good opportunities in final third

After the own goal, team completely lost focus and maybe they would stabilize if another shock didn't arrive thanks to our captain

Thought on Maresca move Estevao into central more to recieve the ball between the line, create numerical superior against Barca pivots while Yamal is instructed to hug the touchline with zero support and always facing opponent's denfender???

Do you like this vision?

JamDav1982 · 2025-11-25T22:24:04+0000

serghei said:
Chelsea put pressure but not much apart from that. Shots on target read 1-2 for a good while. Red floored us. Very similar to PSG game. Dominated, but until the red we were in the game and looking dangerous when we broke through.

Games of football depend on details sometimes. Torres scores for 1-0, we don't get down to 10, and it's an entirely different match.

Barca were not dominating before the red tonight.

serghei · 2025-11-25T22:25:18+0000

So what if we were getting outplayed. It's a tough game away. Getting outplayed for portions in the match is probably expected. It's what you do under that pressure that defines the match. And the weak members of the team folded like a deck of cards.

JamDav1982 · 2025-11-25T22:25:22+0000

Olmo is a better player than Fermin when fit.,

Fermin second striker and tazmanian devil works at times and v dross but he does not have a single clue how to slow game down and progress it up the park in tight games when need that.

Windhook · 2025-11-25T22:25:43+0000

Chelsea pressured us 100% after the red card. It's very rare to see GOAT safe passer Frenkie playing out of his comfort zone tonight.

serghei · 2025-11-25T22:25:45+0000

JamDav1982 said:
Barca were not dominating before the red tonight.

Dominated as in we got dominated.

ajnotkeith · 2025-11-25T22:25:55+0000

KingLeo10 said:
CL is definitely out of reach, but we should try to avoid a beatdown in KOs. That's unacceptable.

Things can change quickly. Remember PSG in fact almost fell out of the group stage last season.

The question is will we make the necessary reflections and lineup/tactical changes.

jamrock · 2025-11-25T22:26:00+0000

serghei said:
Chelsea put pressure but not much apart from that. Shots on target read 1-2 for a good while. Red floored us. Very similar to PSG game. Dominated, but until the red we were in the game and looking dangerous when we broke through.

Games of football depend on details sometimes. Torres scores for 1-0, we don't get down to 10, and it's an entirely different match.

How many times have we had the first goal scorerd against us and we just push forward and overwhelm the team.

That's what would have happened today,it works both ways.

We weren't able to play the ball out or build any form of attack.

The miss goal while important is just an scapegoat to cover that Chelsea were better than us in all areas of the field 11 V 11.

Richard.H · 2025-11-25T22:26:30+0000

I might get crapped on for saying this, but I genuinely think this Chelsea side has a better overall squad than any other team this season. FFS, they were missing arguably their best player and still could slot in at least two players for him with very minimal drop in quality.

I could see them going very far in the CL this season, most likely semis. Maresca does a good job of increasing the intensity in the big ties.

jairzinho · 2025-11-25T22:26:39+0000

Birdy said:
Tonight was not on Flick.

Don't try to scapegoat him on a night like this

The result isn't on him entirely. Still, I would like to see us change our approach in certain situations and not be so predictable. A degree of pragmatism would be useful at times.

serghei · 2025-11-25T22:27:09+0000

They weren't better than us at clear chances to score until the red. They dominated but we were in the game and creating chances ourselves.

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