Joan Laporta

Birdy

Senior Member
You mean like Real Madrid?

What about Liverpool playing at Anfield while they were building a new stand?

Unless you're building a completely new stadium either at different land or literally tearing apart your current one at the same place and building a new one there, every team will gradually open their stadium and play there.

You're not making any sense.

If anything our return is delayed according to their own estimates :lol:

The portion Liverpool were rebuilding was tiny compared to what is still left to do at Camp Nou, and could easily be hidden in TV

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The Camp Nou looks like that right now

The whole upper tier of the stands is missing.
This can't be hidden.
There will be the grass, the players, some fans in the lower stands, and above everyone construction site and equipment.

How lovely...
 

Birdy

Senior Member
No credit for the stadium, because the two presidents before him while in a better environment didn't do it and we are sure as hell font wouldn't have if he won, because he's a man that won't take a risk even if it was a 90% he would succeed.

The need was not so pressing back then, especially pre-2018 or so.

And the most pressure to Laporta to kickstart it came not from the old Camp Nou's problems, nor from the trend of most European teams having completed similar projects, but from the fact that Madrid had done their stadium already

Believe it or not, whoever would have been at Barca's helm in 2021 would have started Espai Barca.
There is nothing original or courageous in what Laporta did, let alone we don't know how wisely he funded it
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The need was not so pressing back then, especially pre-2018 or so.

And the most pressure to Laporta to kickstart it came not from the old Camp Nou's problems, nor from the trend of most European teams having completed similar projects, but from the fact that Madrid had done their stadium already
They need was there since 2010, which is why we had the foster design, and while I like this one more, if laporta in charge back then it would have gotten done.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
They need was there since 2010, which is why we had the foster design, and while I like this one more, if laporta in charge back then it would have gotten done.

Not really.
Designs or future projections is something that costs very little, and can be done just to please fans and give them things to dream about.

No pressing need, or any such trend was around in 2010
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
The stadium is not built yet.
Look at the pictures, there are stands still in the construction phase.

How do you feel about the image of your club playing in a stadium that looks half-built?
Does it boost our image, or does it ridicules us even more?

Profit might be greater, but that's not the main reason in Laporta's mind for the hasty return.
It's mainly elections

PS: It is also obvious that the Espai project is something ALL presidents would have done. It was a dire need that needed to act upon, and there is nothing brave or smart in there that Laporta claims credit for
I'm trying to see it objectively from your pov, but it's obvious there are emotional feelings involved here and if it wasn't Laporta you wouldn't be this hell bent on everything being bad. I don't understand your points and worries at all. It was always the plan to return to the stadium during construction, I don't see how this connects to Laporta's campaign.

Top tier of Camp Nou is hardly ever visible on TV apart from the helicopter view at the beginning of the game. The TV production isn't rigid, they will without any issues be able to catch the game without a construction site in the background, if that even is a problem. Lack of lighting in top tier might do the job for them during late games.

Half-built stadiums is definitively not something that would 'ridicule' the club, rather the opposite it shows we are returning to status quo and that we can play the decisive games on our true home ground, soon in front of 60k, about as much as a full Anfield or Emirates.
 

FCBarca

Truth
You can’t take people like Bojan or @Birdy seriously

Some people just seem to thrive on cynicism. They don’t want balance, they don’t want reason—they just want to watch things burn. You see it in every industry, but construction is a prime example. The loudest voices are often the ones least familiar with how the work actually unfolds, and their “criticism” is more about posturing than substance

The reality is that construction is never a neat binary of “finished” vs “unfinished.” Projects are phased, and occupancy often happens before every last detail is complete. Businesses move in, residents settle down (I moved into our home in late stages in Suisse), and life goes on while final touches are wrapped up. That’s not incompetence—it’s how complex projects are delivered efficiently. Feigning ignorance or willful cynicism?

Overlooking the complexity every massive construction project has to balance: cost, time, and quality. No project can maximize all three simultaneously. There are trade-offs, compromises, delays and adjustments. The true measure of success isn’t whether every cosmetic detail is perfect on day one, but whether the space is safe, functional, and serves its purpose. To dismiss that balance is to misunderstand the very nature of building never mind the politics that constantly surrounds the club

So when critics sneer about “unfinished” projects, they’re not exposing flaws or failures —they’re merely exposing their own lack of understanding. Construction is about creating usable spaces, not chasing an impossible ideal of perfection. Cynicism adds nothing for a club that seems incapable of resisting the Entorno, while builders and current board carry the responsibility of turning vision into reality

Honestly, what can Font and critics reasonably grasp at?
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Half-built stadiums is definitively not something that would 'ridicule' the club, rather the opposite it shows we are returning to status quo and that we can play the decisive games on our true home ground, soon in front of 60k, about as much as a full Anfield or Emirates.

It's definitely something that lowers the image of the club.
Returning to status quo and showing power would have been returning to the new fully constructed and fully-functional stadium, with the helicopter view at the beginning of the games, and the round view of the whole stands during games attesting to that

PS: It's obvious that Laporta wanted the return to happen before elections to claim for himself a W he is not entitled to
 

Birdy

Senior Member
How can you close your eyes to how similar the three are - all products of corporate management rather than football backgrounds, Font may not yet have been mired in business fraud & misconduct like the other corporate predecessors although he has been without any football background or longstanding link to the club - an outside corporate figure that had a phenomenally poor showing in the last election

Now, his only strategy has been a page out of Rosell & Bartomeu’s own corporate playbook of confrontational style & constant public media attacks on the club’s leadership rather than identify where it could be better. It’s a corporate cynic’s POV to destabilize without any real viable alternative that could even be implemented - it’s hot air, a plastic candidate who salivates over running a large cap business

His background is in telecommunications, zero football or Barça link much less football pedigree and that lack of knowledge much experience for a corporate strategist would surely spell the end of a member owned club

He’s an attack dog with great PP presentations and perhaps would be a great media strategist for the club but running a football club?

Unless you are suicidal who would want a repeat of corporatists like Sandy & Nobita to decimate the club for good

The beauty however is that he is so poor at presenting himself the candidacy will unravel from his own doing…not unlike Sandro & Barto…Corporatists to save the club, it’s a great joke that somehow still plays after we’ve been killed by it not once but twice

History has a way of repeating itself because people are stupid

There is 0 argument in here.
Just lumping everyone together under the tag of 'corporate figures', 'corporate cynics', etc., without acknowledging the fallacy of such generalisation

Look at how model clubs like Liverpool or City are successfully run by 'corporate figures'
 

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