Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?

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serghei

serghei

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It's fine though, some important things changed for the better since Xavi in Flick's time, some didn't change much yet, some changed for the worse. You can't have everything. Overall, when you add all of it, Flick is worth it and an improvement. You don't have to be so sensitive about it or lie about it. Flick is top, and is doing what can be done in his way. As did Xavi.

Each had their own way of dealing with the issues of the club, while trying to make us winners again. Xavi was probably more affected because he loves the club so much and played in some of the best Barca sides of all time. Got really frustrated to see Madrid winning 2 CLs in 2.5 years under him. His pride couldn't take it and was too emotional about the entire situation.
 
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Loki

Loki

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Hansi Flick talked with all the players on Sunday and Monday before taking few days off until the upcoming Monday for personal reasons. The coach believes that beyond the physical strain of playing 7 matches in 21 days, the team needs a mental break. Flick sees this break as an opportunity to disconnect, reset, and return to full strength with the goal of facing the next games with strength and continuing to compete for all the titles at stake. Starting from Monday, he wants everyone focused and to have turned the page on this poor start to October. It's time to react and get back to winning ways. Via (): @martinezferran [md]
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Good. Next month after the NT break is pretty important. Losing the Clasico puts Madrid at a serious advantage. Pressure is back on us after Sevilla. It is a very important match. We could bounce back and get a massive boost or we could go into a crisis.

Flick's record vs Madrid is amazing, he seems to match up well vs them, it's probably the most impressive thing in his time so far. This gives me hope we can win again.
 
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Porque

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Flick is so much better than Xavi that it shouldn't even be a comparison.

Xavi grinded out a league, Flick decimated the league.

Xavi got knocked out by Man United in the Europa League hinting at shenanigans for getting drawn against Man Utd. Flick was 60 seconds and a foul not being called away from the CL final.

Xavi got pumped 4-0 at home in the Copa Del Rey second leg. Flick won the Copa del Rey beating Madrid in the final which you chose to ignore.

This is all first full season stuff. Xavi had kid Lameen, but he also had the 200m spending surge and Balon d'Or winning attacking in his team.

Come on man.

As JamDav would say "Ooooooh Frenkie".

I mean

"Do Better"
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Rubbish post. See we're back at trashing Xavi for some stupid arguments. Barcaforum's favorite sport.

That United we lost to I think finished 3rd in EPL that season.

Losing to Madrid 4-0 can happen. Madrid back then won CL in 2022, and won CL again in 2024, while we were rebuilding the team. We also won 4-0 ourselves on Bernabeu, conveniently ignored.
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Porque said:
Nah. I see it more as we had a very bad week so let's run up some Xavi revisionism.

Do Frenkie.
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Meh. When I pointed to sily errors by players under Xavi that cost us in bad games, you guys refused the argument.

Now it's out again. :lol:

Pique, Araujo, Garcia defending like clowns was on the manager back then. Araujo red vs PSG was on Xavi also, hilariously. If he does it under Flick, it's poor Flick, he doesn't have a top squad.

Flipy flopy.

Also, the money Xavi spent didn't just evaporate. Flick is benefiting from those invesments. How come a smart person like yourself can't see how ridiculous that argument is?
 
serghei

serghei

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Xavi and Flick both knew what were or are the defficiencies of the team. Just took differrent routes to tackle them, knowing that the club can't go on the market like a regular club to deal with them in the best way.

And while their approach was different, the defficiencies are very much still visible the moment we meet teams that have the quality to exploit them. You can pick and choose results and make them look better or worse, this fact remains. All you can do is let a good manager work at things for as long as motivation and positive attitude is there.
 
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Porque

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serghei said:
Meh. When I pointed to sily errors by players under Xavi that cost us in bad games, you guys refused the argument.

Now it's out again. :lol:

Pique, Araujo, Garcia defending like clowns was on the manager back then. Araujo red vs PSG was on Xavi also, hilariously. If he does it under Flick, it's poor Flick, he doesn't have a top squad.

Flipy flopy.

Also, the money Xavi spent didn't just evaporate. Flick is benefiting from those invesments. How come a smart person like yourself can't see how ridiculous that argument is?
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Of course Flick is benefitting from the quality of the squad.

The whole point of Xavi sacking was because he couldnt maximise it anymore and felt it couldn't compete without signings.

The only thing Flick and Xavi would have in common is if this past week becomes the norm and Flick continues to struggle this season. Started imploding, getting himself sent off, etc.

Btw

Obviously Araujo wasn't on the manager but perhaps how the game went after that, with Xavi getting himself sent off was.

Just as Paris last week was on Flick for seeing PSGs changes and deciding it was ok to bring on Bernal. Even if PSG were better second half, the game looked like heading to a draw until we gave them a man advantage.

I just don't see how Flick and Xavi can be compared as managerial talents.
 
Barcaman

Barcaman

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serghei said:
Rubbish post. See we're back at trashing Xavi for some stupid arguments. Barcaforum's favorite sport.

That United we lost to I think finished 3rd in EPL that season.

Losing to Madrid 4-0 can happen. Madrid back then won CL in 2022, and won CL again in 2024, while we were rebuilding the team. We also won 4-0 ourselves on Bernabeu, conveniently ignored.
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Speak like a man who didn't watch "football" Xavi's team produced.


It was total rubbish.
 
Messi983

Messi983

Senior Member
Loki said:
Hansi Flick talked with all the players on Sunday and Monday before taking few days off until the upcoming Monday for personal reasons. The coach believes that beyond the physical strain of playing 7 matches in 21 days, the team needs a mental break. Flick sees this break as an opportunity to disconnect, reset, and return to full strength with the goal of facing the next games with strength and continuing to compete for all the titles at stake. Starting from Monday, he wants everyone focused and to have turned the page on this poor start to October. It's time to react and get back to winning ways. Via (): @martinezferran [md]
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cheap talk, let's see what he'll actually do.

Though I expect we'll start to play better when Lamine is back and then ofc people will credit Hansi for that.
 
iniestaGOAT

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
FLICK needs to win the CL if he wants to be seen as better than XAVI.
Right now they are even.

Of course flick ball lickers disagree but thats to be expected.
 
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