Hans-Dieter Flick

Temptation · 2025-10-06T00:50:12+0100

Birdy said:
Not only 3, you are too strict with him

perhaps 5 or 6

Ignore this cuck. He's just salty about getting destroyed in every Football discussion by me for years. :lol:

Even Serghei or Jamrock wouldn't say that Raphinha had world class seasons before last season.

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T00:53:16+0100

Temptation said:
Ignore this cuck. He's just salty about getting destroyed in every Football discussion by me for years.

Even Serghei or Jamrock wouldn't say that Raphinha had world class seasons before last season.

Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you. :lol:

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward. Remember, he was getting subbed out early by Xavi, so going by minutes, he only played 2000 minutes in 23-24. Those are top numbers for minutes played with a G + A every 80-90 minutes or so.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.

Temptation · 2025-10-06T00:53:30+0100

jamrock said:
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.

Olise is a lot more than just statistics. His technical ability is crazy. It's like rating Yamal based on pure statistics.

His style of play isn't just based on numbers. Although he has great numbers too.

At Palace, he was a baller who showed clear potential to be World Class in the future.

At Bayern, he's playing like a World Class player currently fulfilling that potential.

Temptation · 2025-10-06T00:54:35+0100

KingLeo10 said:
Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you.

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.

Hilarious considering I was the one defending Raphinha when you and your mates wanted him sold under Xavi. :lol:

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T00:56:16+0100

None of these bums can match Raphinha's intensity and defensive contribution and leadership on the pitch either.

:lol:

Olise

Temptation · 2025-10-06T00:56:53+0100

I categorically said Rapha would have deserved the Ballon d or last season and yet you have people here pretending like I don't rate him just because I wrote a nuanced analysis on his career before last season. :lol:

jamrock · 2025-10-06T00:58:56+0100

Temptation said:
Depends.

If Raphinha doesn't perform this season, then it's just a purple patch/one off season. If he's still on the same level then he's World Class.

For now, you can call him World Class because of last season which was phenomenal.

Mac Allister isn't world class. Never was. He was very good last season and is dogshit this season. Gravenberch is better than him. This forum will always hype up Messi's mates. Look at Enzo who's a huge flop at Chelsea (although he's been better lately) but nobody here criticizes him.

Who's the Dutch dude?

Salah was world class for years throughout his prime. It's not even a debate.

Wirtz had 2 world class seasons at Leverkusen, winning the best player in his league and leading them to a historic invincible season as the undisputed main man. If he flops at Liverpool, he won't be World Class. But based on his Leverkusen career, he's World Class.

You need atleast 2 seasons to be sure but you can definitely call Raphinha World Class now until he proves otherwise. Nobody here has defended Raphinha more than me. Even under Xavi.

Look up wirtz Data and tell me how he's world class based on two "WC" seasons and raphinha isn't because he had 1

Mind you I saw both of them play.

Your logic isn't adding up.

Birdy · 2025-10-06T01:01:46+0100

jamrock said:
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.

When you stop reading G+A numbers, and start watching actual games and how players play,

then maybe you will start understanding football

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T01:04:04+0100

Birdy said:
When you stop reading G+A numbers, and start watching actual games and how players play,

then maybe you will start understanding football

Aye, just like you never watched any of PSG games or Dembele last season except CL and couldn't stop twerking for them?

Just give it up. We know your game.

Temptation · 2025-10-06T01:05:48+0100

jamrock said:
Look up wirtz Data and tell me how he's world class based on two "WC" seasons and raphinha isn't because he had 1

Mind you I saw both of them play.

Your logic isn't adding up.

Wirtz is a 10. Rapha is a forward.

Data supports Wirtz being World Class at Leverkusen. All kinds of data BTW, not just GA.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936122572632125797

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1926185671909126222

Elite statistics in every metric and in terms of eye test, every Bundesliga expert and fan has been twerking for him for ages now.

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T01:07:05+0100

Florian Turdz was absolutely diabolical in the biggest European games - the EL final and the CL KO tie v Bayern

got 0-8'ed in those 3 games :lol:

Temptation · 2025-10-06T01:10:23+0100

KingLeo10 said:
Florian Turdz was absolutely diabolical in the biggest European games - the EL final and the CL KO tie v Bayern

got 0-8'ed in those 3 games

Pedri has been notoriously non-existent and average in big CL knockout games throughout his Barca career, so he isn't world class then? :lol:

Even in Span's Euro triumph he didn't play after the Germany game.

Wirtz was the undisputed main man in Leverkusen's historic invincible season and is already the main man for the German NT lmao.

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T01:16:11+0100

Temptation said:
Pedri has been notoriously non-existent and average in big CL knockout games throughout his Barca career, so he isn't world class then?

Even in Span's Euro triumph he didn't play after the Germany game.

Wirtz was the undisputed main man in Leverkusen's historic invincible season and is already the main man for the German NT lmao.

Pedri has a good collection of top performances in numerous CL KO games and big games v RM and AM.

All Florian has done is swindled Pool and gotten you to obsess over his "MAIN MAN" energy :lol:

Lil buddy loves himself a "MAIN MAN" soundbite and froth :lol:

Go to work Baljeet. It's morning in Bangalore ain't it :lol:

Temptation · 2025-10-06T01:20:41+0100

KingLeo10 said:
Pedri has a good collection of top performances in numerous CL KO games

No he doesn't lmao.

KingLeo10 said:
big games v RM and AM.

Just like Wirtz v Bayern and Dortmund.

Domestic league.......

Now go take your meds, you autistic faggot. Your wannabe forum cop act always ends in you looking like an even bigger cuck than you already are. :lol:

KingLeo10 · 2025-10-06T01:23:49+0100

Temptation said:
Now go take your meds, you autistic faggot. Your wannabe forum cop act always ends in you looking like an even bigger cuck than you already are.

No need to seethe this much :lol:

Someone get this lad a "MAIN MAN" :lol:

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