Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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KingLeo10

Senior Member
Ignore this cuck. He's just salty about getting destroyed in every Football discussion by me for years. :lol:

Even Serghei or Jamrock wouldn't say that Raphinha had world class seasons before last season.

Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you. :lol:

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward. Remember, he was getting subbed out early by Xavi, so going by minutes, he only played 2000 minutes in 23-24. Those are top numbers for minutes played with a G + A every 80-90 minutes or so.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.
Olise is a lot more than just statistics. His technical ability is crazy. It's like rating Yamal based on pure statistics.

His style of play isn't just based on numbers. Although he has great numbers too.

At Palace, he was a baller who showed clear potential to be World Class in the future.

At Bayern, he's playing like a World Class player currently fulfilling that potential.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you. :lol:

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.
Hilarious considering I was the one defending Raphinha when you and your mates wanted him sold under Xavi. :lol: :lol:
 

Temptation

Well-known member
I categorically said Rapha would have deserved the Ballon d or last season and yet you have people here pretending like I don't rate him just because I wrote a nuanced analysis on his career before last season. :lol: :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Depends.

If Raphinha doesn't perform this season, then it's just a purple patch/one off season. If he's still on the same level then he's World Class.

For now, you can call him World Class because of last season which was phenomenal.

Mac Allister isn't world class. Never was. He was very good last season and is dogshit this season. Gravenberch is better than him. This forum will always hype up Messi's mates. Look at Enzo who's a huge flop at Chelsea (although he's been better lately) but nobody here criticizes him.

Who's the Dutch dude?

Salah was world class for years throughout his prime. It's not even a debate.

Wirtz had 2 world class seasons at Leverkusen, winning the best player in his league and leading them to a historic invincible season as the undisputed main man. If he flops at Liverpool, he won't be World Class. But based on his Leverkusen career, he's World Class.

You need atleast 2 seasons to be sure but you can definitely call Raphinha World Class now until he proves otherwise. Nobody here has defended Raphinha more than me. Even under Xavi.

Look up wirtz Data and tell me how he's world class based on two "WC" seasons and raphinha isn't because he had 1

Mind you I saw both of them play.

Your logic isn't adding up.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.

When you stop reading G+A numbers, and start watching actual games and how players play,

then maybe you will start understanding football
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
When you stop reading G+A numbers, and start watching actual games and how players play,

then maybe you will start understanding football
Aye, just like you never watched any of PSG games or Dembele last season except CL and couldn't stop twerking for them?

Just give it up. We know your game.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Look up wirtz Data and tell me how he's world class based on two "WC" seasons and raphinha isn't because he had 1

Mind you I saw both of them play.

Your logic isn't adding up.
Wirtz is a 10. Rapha is a forward.


Data supports Wirtz being World Class at Leverkusen. All kinds of data BTW, not just GA.



Elite statistics in every metric and in terms of eye test, every Bundesliga expert and fan has been twerking for him for ages now.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Florian Turdz was absolutely diabolical in the biggest European games - the EL final and the CL KO tie v Bayern

got 0-8'ed in those 3 games :lol:
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Florian Turdz was absolutely diabolical in the biggest European games - the EL final and the CL KO tie v Bayern

got 0-8'ed in those 3 games :lol:

Pedri has been notoriously non-existent and average in big CL knockout games throughout his Barca career, so he isn't world class then? :lol:

Even in Span's Euro triumph he didn't play after the Germany game.

Wirtz was the undisputed main man in Leverkusen's historic invincible season and is already the main man for the German NT lmao.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Pedri has been notoriously non-existent and average in big CL knockout games throughout his Barca career, so he isn't world class then? :lol:

Even in Span's Euro triumph he didn't play after the Germany game.

Wirtz was the undisputed main man in Leverkusen's historic invincible season and is already the main man for the German NT lmao.
Pedri has a good collection of top performances in numerous CL KO games and big games v RM and AM.

All Florian has done is swindled Pool and gotten you to obsess over his "MAIN MAN" energy :lol: Lil buddy loves himself a "MAIN MAN" soundbite and froth :lol:

Go to work Baljeet. It's morning in Bangalore ain't it :lol:
 

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